Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Antiques

S&W Antiques S&W Lever Action Pistols, Tip-Up Revolvers, ALL Top-Break Revolvers, and ALL Single Shots


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-04-2012, 07:20 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model

I just picked this up for the princely sum of $52. I believe it to be a .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model (#972XX). My trusty SCSW says this model was made 1902-1909. Cylinder and breach are frozen. I bought this, and another project gun to test out some firearms restoration processes. If it works, then I may gain a cool woods-carry gun (even if I can't save the bore and have to line it). If it doesn't work, then I have an interesting test sample. Any additional information from y'all would be appreciated.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg pix954965544.jpg (32.1 KB, 49 views)
File Type: jpg pix997198653.jpg (37.4 KB, 38 views)
File Type: jpg pix223038150.jpg (37.3 KB, 38 views)

Last edited by rhm0351; 03-10-2018 at 10:42 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #2  
Old 04-04-2012, 07:44 PM
TACC1 TACC1 is offline
US Veteran
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wautoma, WI 54982
Posts: 4,114
Likes: 6,564
Liked 799 Times in 499 Posts
Default

I'm a fan of the old Safety Hammerless guns. I'll enjoy
following your progress. Too bad the .32S&W is so anemic.
I have a shortened 2nd model, that is almost the perfect
BUG. TACC1
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-04-2012, 08:01 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

I'm going to try to run this project concurrently with the restoration of a parts gun 1898 Marlin 12ga., but I'm sure I'll take pictures along the way. First step is probably going to be a couple weeks soaking in penetrating oil, though. If I can get the breach and cylinder unstuck by soaking, it's a good start. After that, it goes into the electrolysis tank. In theory, I know what I'm working with by that point and whether to keep working towards mechanical function or if it is only ever going to be a shelf sitter. 90% of the time, where I hike in the woods, the only problems are snakes and poachers, as the hogs and big cats aren't likely to be a bother, so I figure the .32 S&W would be right at home. I've never considered owning one of these models, so I know relatively little about them, but am trying to read every post here mentioning them.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-04-2012, 09:46 PM
Hondo44 Hondo44 is offline
SWCA Member

Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Posts: 19,111
Likes: 12,376
Liked 20,971 Times in 8,750 Posts
Default

Obviously it will need to be soaked.
Not to long ago I read test results of a very comprehensive comparison of rust penetrants. Of the Commercially available products, WD-40 won over all the others but came in third. Two other 'shade tree gunsmith' brews that were also tested were auto trans fluid (ATF) and the other was 1/2 & 1/2 ATF and acetone.

Plain ATF beat the WD-40 by a wide margin but the ATF w/acetone won hands down! I use nothing else and it truly works the best!!
__________________
Jim
S&WCA #819

Last edited by Hondo44; 04-08-2012 at 06:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-05-2012, 08:55 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

Thank you for the suggestion of the ATF and acetone. I did some reading on it and it looks very promising. I have been using ATF for lubricating non-load-bearing parts of firearms, anyhow. After all the reading today based on your suggestion, I think I am going to use ATF and mineral spirits, though. The ATF/ms combo will mix a little better, be easier to work with, evaporate slower in a soaking bucket, and use spirits I already am well stocked up on. As the purpose of the additive to the ATF seems to just be for thinning it to get it to penetrate deeper, then to evaporate, I will get a slightly slower evaporation, but since I am going to soak for an extended period of time, it shouldn't be a problem. I am going to try the electrolysis tank first, since the ATF may prevent the reaction I need with the rust if I were to soak it first. If anyone can narrow down the likely date of manufacture a bit more than just the model years, I would appreciate it. Thanks for the suggestions.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-05-2012, 09:01 PM
Roundsworth's Avatar
Roundsworth Roundsworth is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 130
Likes: 122
Liked 21 Times in 14 Posts
Default

Has anyone here used Kano's Kroil? Many people swear by it. I have some, but have not put it to the test on a major project.
__________________
GMC-USN, Retired/1978 to 2001
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-05-2012, 09:08 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roundsworth View Post
Has anyone here used Kano's Kroil? Many people swear by it. I have some, but have not put it to the test on a major project.
Yes, I am one who swears by it. I may decide I like the ATF/mineral spirits mix, but doubt I will ever fully get rid of my Kroil, despite the large price difference. Kroil is great for many things; I use it on all of my stones for gunsmithing when they get loaded up with debris, it just raises the debris up so I can wipe it off clean, again. I have used it for a number of years for really stuck parts. I use it in the form of Witches Brew for barrel break in, and am about to start using plain Kroil for post-bore cleaning protection on all my firearms.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #8  
Old 04-07-2012, 02:04 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

Figuring they will need replacing, I ordered a Cylinder Hook Spring, Extractor Spring, Mainspring, and replacement grips from Numrich. I hope they send me what I actually ordered, the past couple experiences have been bad.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-15-2012, 08:41 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

The pistol arrived this week and is actually in better shape than it looks in those photos. I'll try and get some new, better ones in the next few days. The bore looks pretty bad, but I haven't gotten a look with a light, yet. Anything that should move is seized up, so it should be a good project. I finished the electrolysis tank tonight and need to mix up my sodium carbonate solution tomorrow after I degrease the pistol.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN5176.JPG (52.1 KB, 31 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5178.JPG (50.5 KB, 30 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5179.JPG (46.8 KB, 32 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5200.JPG (22.0 KB, 30 views)

Last edited by rhm0351; 03-10-2018 at 10:45 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #10  
Old 04-15-2012, 10:19 PM
Hondo44 Hondo44 is offline
SWCA Member

Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Posts: 19,111
Likes: 12,376
Liked 20,971 Times in 8,750 Posts
Default

That looks pretty elaborate. I suspect that it may remove the remains of the nickel as well which may not be a bad thing. Keep us posted.
__________________
Jim
S&WCA #819
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-15-2012, 10:26 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

From what I have read, it likely won't affect the nickel, unless rust has penetrated underneath it. This is a learning experience, so we'll see what happens. I'm hoping it does remove the nickel. I have it in a mineral spirit bath now after I gave it a good scrubbing with dish soap. The electrolysis process won't work as thoroughly if there is oil on the surface.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-16-2012, 11:41 AM
H Richard's Avatar
H Richard H Richard is offline
US Veteran
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Central IL
Posts: 22,776
Likes: 19,923
Liked 23,212 Times in 8,519 Posts
Default

I'm interested to follow your process and progress.
__________________
H Richard
SWCA1967 SWHF244
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-16-2012, 09:55 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

Got distracted with the kids after work and didn't get the pistol from the mineral spirits to the electrolysis tank. But, the mineral spirits definitely seem to be loosening some of the rust; I can see a lot of the particles standing perpendicular to the steel where they are attached.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-18-2012, 03:38 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default 12 hours in the electrolysis tank at 6V

The broken mainspring now swings freely from the hammer and the grip safety is no longer frozen. I did a light scrub with dish soap and a sponge, which removed some of the black, but it began corroding very quickly as I snapped the photos. I put it back in the tank on 12V. When I take it out for the final time I will be spraying it with oil as it comes out of the tank to prevent corrosion.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN5208.JPG (75.0 KB, 30 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5204.JPG (72.8 KB, 27 views)

Last edited by rhm0351; 03-10-2018 at 10:46 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #15  
Old 04-19-2012, 05:11 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default 24 more hours in the tank, about five at 12V, then 6V

I washed it with dish soap and a soft sponge, again. I can really see nickel where there used to be orange rust. I sprayed it down with WD-40 until I can go pick up some transmission fluid for a 50/50 mix with mineral spirits to penetrate for a couple weeks.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN5212.JPG (17.3 KB, 21 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5213.JPG (142.0 KB, 30 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5218.JPG (157.9 KB, 26 views)

Last edited by rhm0351; 03-10-2018 at 10:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #16  
Old 05-13-2012, 12:40 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

All of the screws came out with no trouble. The sideplate came off easily, the trigger and hammer now move, but the cylinder and t-latch are still frozen. I haven't done any cleaning to take the crud off, but it is all loose on the inside and wipes off with a finger.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN5296.JPG (69.0 KB, 21 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN5299.JPG (90.3 KB, 24 views)

Last edited by rhm0351; 03-10-2018 at 10:48 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #17  
Old 04-13-2013, 08:21 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

Pulled it out of the penetrating oil...11 months to the day. It's still STUCK! The hammer moves much more freely, and the hand wants to, until it stops from the frozen cylinder. I'm going to try and degrease it tomorrow and get it in to some Evapo-Rust. If that doesn't do it, I'll have to shelve this project, most likely. I'll try and get some photos tomorrow, though it doesn't look like much change.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-14-2013, 06:56 AM
bigmitty bigmitty is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: WI
Posts: 75
Likes: 461
Liked 27 Times in 19 Posts
Default

Did you try tapping it numerous times with a plastic hammer or wood handle?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-14-2013, 09:59 AM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

No, I haven't, yet. I will have to give that a try after a good scrubbing. It looks like there is solid corrosion between the top of the cylinder and topstrap, though. I was thinking about knocking out what looks like a cross-bolt at the pivot point in the frame. I have already taken the screw out, but it looks like it can be further disassembled.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-14-2013, 10:23 AM
TACC1 TACC1 is offline
US Veteran
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wautoma, WI 54982
Posts: 4,114
Likes: 6,564
Liked 799 Times in 499 Posts
Default

You still get points in my book for attempting this project.
I sincerely hope everything frees up. Although underpowered
by today's standards, your pistol represents fine
craftsmanship. Good luck on this project,
TACC1
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 04-14-2013, 04:55 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

I tapped the pivot screw out easily, and the pistol came apart. The trigger, hammer, hand, and grip safety work just fine together, but that cylinder is still stuck. Some of the color case hardening on the hammer is visible now. Here is a photo of it in Evapo-Rust; lets hope for more improvement and no significant damage to the remaining finish! The rifling looks good and strong, too, though very dark.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMAG0017.jpg (43.7 KB, 30 views)
File Type: jpg IMAG0020.jpg (61.7 KB, 26 views)

Last edited by rhm0351; 03-10-2018 at 11:10 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #22  
Old 04-15-2013, 04:46 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

No more finish on the trigger or hammer, unfortunately, but, using a couple wooden dowels cut to about 3", I was able to un-stick the cylinder and remove it. The only hurdle now seems to be the extractor.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-16-2013, 07:02 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

I went a little beyond the point of diminishing returns; the nickel is now a bit gold tinted (don't soak beyond 12-24 hours in Evapo-Rust). The upside is, everything functions. The ejector works, all five cylinders time properly on the DA pull, and it locks up solid. After a scrubbing with dish soap, hitting it with hot air, some Kroil, and photos, I dropped it back in the ATF/mineral spirits solution until I have more time to work on it. I left the sideplate in the Evapo-Rust since I added it yesterday evening and it had not turned colors like the rest of the revolver. I'm going to knock out the pins holding the trigger guard and the firing pin so that I can completely clean every piece before I decide on whether to refinish it or not. Part of me wants to just put some Mother's Mag Polish on it and leave it, gold tinge and all, part wants a factory re-nickel just to add to a historical letter if I were to ever order one on this, and part of me just wants to media blast it and hit it with some cerakote to look like hard chrome where the nickel was and a dark blue where it had originally been blued. I'm pretty traditional when it comes to revolvers, so a fancy modern finish is the least appealing option, initially. I may cold blue the trigger, trigger guard, and hammer, again, though, just for protection. Surprisingly, the t-latch retained most of its nearly black finish.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMAG0023.jpg (104.8 KB, 23 views)

Last edited by rhm0351; 03-10-2018 at 11:11 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #24  
Old 04-16-2013, 07:24 PM
TACC1 TACC1 is offline
US Veteran
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Wautoma, WI 54982
Posts: 4,114
Likes: 6,564
Liked 799 Times in 499 Posts
Default WAY TO GO!!

So, basically, you have saved this pistol from almost
certain destruction. No matter what you do with it now, it
has a new life ahead of it. I have a project gun of my own
in 32S&W. Much better starting condition, but same
great S&W craftsmanship. You deserve still more points.
TACC1
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 04-16-2013, 08:28 PM
mmaher94087 mmaher94087 is offline
SWCA Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3,152
Likes: 4
Liked 2,659 Times in 1,393 Posts
Default

"I'm going to knock out the pins holding the trigger guard.. " The trigger guard is a big spring. No pins hold it in place. Front and rear of the guard 'snap' into recesses in the frame. Rap the rear of the guard with a leather mallet to loosen it from the frame. The pins are for the trigger and return spring as I recall. Mike #283
__________________
Mike Maher #283
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-16-2013, 09:42 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

Thank you both for the support and guidance. I heard the Gunsmithing Guns of the Old West book might cover this, or a similar pistol, but need to dig out my copy and take a look before I get too much farther into it.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-30-2017, 01:30 AM
jframejoey jframejoey is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: New England
Posts: 1,391
Likes: 11,582
Liked 1,014 Times in 502 Posts
Default

Any pics of finished prodject?
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 03-09-2018, 07:25 PM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

No, I've had it sitting in a tub of oil for years, and just not gotten back to it. I'll see about getting it done in the next couple months and posting some photos.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #29  
Old 03-10-2018, 10:19 AM
glowe's Avatar
glowe glowe is offline
US Veteran

Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Michigan Western UP
Posts: 12,625
Likes: 3,167
Liked 15,096 Times in 5,697 Posts
Default

What a shame to lose all these images over time. My fear is that all of our linked images will be gone down the road, leaving posts like this with a bunch of blanks and pretty much meaningless. I ran across one a week ago that had 50 likes and sure would have liked to see what everyone was excited about??

I see this all the time and there are probably thousands of blank pics out there right now on this Forum, lost forever. If members would simply upload images to the Forum, they will remain available for future members to enjoy many years down the road.
__________________
Gary
SWCA 2515
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 03-10-2018, 10:52 AM
rhm0351 rhm0351 is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Virginia
Posts: 181
Likes: 6
Liked 149 Times in 45 Posts
Default

Uploaded a few photos to replace the broken links. I'll see if I can find the rest.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #31  
Old 03-16-2018, 01:17 PM
DocB's Avatar
DocB DocB is offline
Member
Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model Picked Up a Project Gun: .32 Safety Hammerless 2nd Model  
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Middle Georgia
Posts: 2,331
Likes: 4,550
Liked 5,574 Times in 1,319 Posts
Default

These old guns make great part guns. Any Smith under $100 is a buy for me. Just this past few weeks I've taken needed parts from a Winchester M62 and a Smith Safety hammerless. Boy was I glad I had them when needed. A year back, I redid a Combat Masterpiece with a parts gun. You can't tell it from a near new one. Then I sold the parts gun for more than I paid for the restored one. Same thing with a Colt OM Match that needed parts.
__________________
Dr. B
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply

Tags
2nd model, extractor, gunsmith, hammerless, scsw, sideplate, smith & wesson, smith and wesson

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
.38 Safety Hammerless 4th model ID Gun and Harry S&W Antiques 2 02-15-2017 12:24 PM
My little project..... .32 Safety Hammerless ***DOB PLEASE*** policerevolvercollector S&W Antiques 2 12-17-2016 12:53 PM
.38 Safety Hammerless 1st Model Kochd79 S&W Antiques 8 12-05-2016 01:27 PM
1st Model 32 Safety Hammerless DocB S&W Antiques 3 11-12-2015 06:19 PM
2 38 safety hammerless fifth model s&wfan2 S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 1 10-14-2014 03:02 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:02 PM.


© 2000-2024 smith-wessonforum.com All rights reserved worldwide.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)