Would appreciate some feed back on value for this piece.

I assume the case is not period.

The presentation is to: William Sherman of the Scranton Guards.

I haven't done much work in trying to track this Sherman down; but assuming nothing special about him or his history, is it possible to estimate how much value could be added by having some detail or history on Sherman?

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FWIW, I read it as "Presented William ? Sherman BY the Scranton Guards."

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You're correct! I spoke too soon. Was reviewing my files and found a letter that came with the gun. However, I'm confused about the CT reference to what was clearly a PA unit. Anyway, seems as though I do have something (maybe) on Sherman.

Helps value at all??

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Value will depend on the amount of good provenance that can be developed and tied to Sherman and the Scranton Guards. PA isn't the only state with a Scranton. It should not be too hard to get the history of the Guards and their muster rolls, unless they were a Home Guard unit. If pictures of Sherman can be found, and a bio perhaps, including death certificates, grave photos, pension records, battles he fought in, etc. , then you will have the material furnishing the proof of the gun and it's engraving. Guns, like yours, with established records generally bring $4.500 - $6,500 range. Ed.

I think you have the right Sherman! Now just start looking for the other documents Ed mentioned.
BTW, Scranton seems to have many connections in CT. Just Google it and you will see. (It doesn't neccessarily have to be an established town, it could be an area. There is an area up around Wilkes-Barre that was originally givens to the Jesuits that was contested between both PA and CT back in colonial times. (They even fought a "war" over it.) The Univ of Scranton is a Jesuit college in the area, so Scranton is an old name with ties back to the 1600's.

Good hunting....

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Cotton42-very nice Model 2. Even without the engraving and provenance , you are looking at a 4 digit value. I agree with Ed that a properly documented gun and case would be valued at over $4000. A $50 factory letter from Roy Jinks would be a great addition to your documentation and well worth the money. My guess is that the case is period and may have come from S&W's distributor when the gun was sold. I really like your 32 cartridge box and it also looks to be period correct.

It is very rare to find a Model 2 that is engraved with owner's name attributed to the Civil War and that can bring additional money if the documentation is solid. Wouldn't it be great if the owner was related to General Sherman!

Fascinating gun. The box of cartridges isn't bad either.

Bob

How about this guy?

Jamie Bean (jamiebeanii) on Pinterest

Have to admit it looks like William T Sherman.

Several accounts online contain a William J. Sherman.

After the Union army was defeated at the Battle of Chickamauga, they, led by Major General William S. Rosecrans, retreated to the base at Chatanooga (Chatanooga, 2011). There they prepared for the pursuing Confederate army led by General Braxton Bragg (Hickman, 2011). His men moved to Missionary Ridge to the east and Lookout Mountain to the South (Hickman, 2011). At this time, Abraham Lincoln created the Military Division of the Mississippi and sent General Ulysses S. Grant to command the Union armies of the west and relieved Rosecrans of his duty with Major General George H. Thomas (Hickman, 2011). Bragg sent some men with General James Longstreet, reducing his number of troops while Grant reinforced the Union position with more divisions under Major General Joseph Hooker and Major General William J. Sherman (Hickman, 2011).

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It will be very interesting to learn of this gun's past. That said how about what you know as far as how you came into possession of it? Thanks,Kyle

Nope.....that's most assuredly William Tecumseh Sherman!!

I think we're definitely looking for the William J. Sherman as described in the inquiry made to the Connecticut State Library in 1967!! Still trying to make the Scranton Guard connection as I've found nothing as yet!!

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My father purchased the gun in the late 1960's, when he was actively collecting. I don't have any paperwork on the purchase other than some personal lists and appraisal work he had done in the early 1970's.

Now that I know the Scranton connection is CT based, I will do some more work on Sherman and post what I find.

I owned one in a case like that some years ago.

Looks like the same brand case.

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