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Old 03-12-2024, 12:17 PM
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Found this online recently. Never seen the like before. Someone put some time into it.... or maybe not.

Its got a Smith and Wesson barrel on it so its probably pretty accurate!
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Looks like the color doesn't match closely on the grip frame vs the barrel portion. Do the two portions have the same serial number?
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The barrel does not have a serial number and the frame serial number is on the bottom of the trigger guard. The frame I think is an Iver Johnson while the barrel is Smith and Wesson. There are no markings on the top of the barrel. The rear sight looks like a Smith and Wesson perfected target sight. Odd combination.
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No, not a Model of '91 (a single action------.38 Single Action 3rd if my remembering is working-----the foundation of the 1st Model Single Shots---and the 2nd Model S.S.'s too---albeit after they'd messed with it some).

That's about all I have, given no interest/knowledge in/of anything besides target guns. (That said, some of these funky little double actions were available as targets (.38 4th/5th/Perfected models). This I know from book learnin', 'cause I've never seen but one of them (a 5th) as an original target.) This one figures to be a 4th or 5th, 'cause it clearly isn't a Perfected.

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It’s definitely a put together. The ejector is a replacement. Nicely done though.
Is the barrel length original? If so it’s a rare length.


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As an aside, given the barrel has been cut, you can spot it a mile away (if (IF) it's a .22).

The .22 top break Single Shots (the barrels) were mated to center fire actions----which, of course, does not compute. They made it work (with both center fire and rim fire---in the case of the 1st Models) by way of boring the .22 barrels on a bias---such that the center fire hammer/firing pin strikes the .22 rim fire cartridge on the rim-----and all's right with the world!

Given a cut .22 barrel, the bore (at the muzzle) is going to be off center with the barrel--which you can spot a mile away---or maybe a little bit closer---but you can spot it.

All things considered, that was pretty sneaky.

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Definitely put together. The frame is not S&W. The frame looks like it has some H&R lineage or IJ. S&W would have a side plate on the left side of a double action Top Break.
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