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Old 09-28-2009, 09:31 PM
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A little poll, K frames only so far.
What is the highest serial number 4 screw without model numbers you have actually seen?
I have a K38 CM that is K329511.
A post below references a M&P, C430xxx.
Does anyone have one higher/later?
My informal research shows post K360,xxx plus or minus to be Model marked.
What is the lowest model marked serial you have.
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K22 #K299XXX is a pre model.

K38 #K388XXX is model marked

If this helps
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K22 # k 782 also a pre model.


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I have a model 17 serial number K346XXX shipped Jan. 1959
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My 4-screw pre model 10 snub-nose is C 3811xx. Don't know how it stacks up to being close to having a model number on it, but it still has the older style barrel. I bought it from the original owner.

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My highest SN. "pre-model" 4 screw is K322xxx.A Combat Masterpiece.
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I had a five screw pre model .38 k5875**
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Thanks,
So far the unscientific answer as to when the K (target) frames started getting marked seems to be between 329511 and 346XXX. I seem to remember seeing one in the 331XXX range but can't verify it.
Any others?
Of course this all could be just another useless snipe hunt.
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kpm...I can narrow it down a little further as K344014 is stamped MOD-19 in the yoke cut and was shipped on May 8, 1959.

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K 313132 Pre-14 4-screw belonged to my uncle who carried it as a reserve cop in Ohio in the early 60's. It's one of my favorites.
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My pre-model 4 screw k22 is k 3265xx.
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K3251xx is a 4 screw non model marked K-22. Until your K329 came along ,it was the highest numbered n.m.m. I'd ever seen.







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I'll add this as a confirming reference point: K3024xx is a a pre-14 4-screw. -S2

(an old photo; I'm pretty sure that it's the second one down, on the left; it's still got the "fishhook" hammer)
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What is the highest serial number 4 screw without model numbers you have actually seen? A post below references a M&P, C430xxx. Does anyone have one higher/later?
Don't have a pre-10 4-screw to report but, for reference, I do have a marked model 10 4-screw with s/n C457,3XX.

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I have a 1960 Mod 14 no dash at SN401xxx.
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My model marked "14" sn. K364xxx. Looks like were narrowing it down.
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K22 pre 17 4 screw #k328XXX

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K3398xx is Model Marked 14, shipped Oct 1958
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So the top looks like somewhere between 3295XX and 3398XX.
Can anyone close the gap some more?
Still need some from the bottom.
What was the last 5 screw and first 4 screw.
One more windmill to tilt at.
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Don't know if this is any help, but have 4 Screw Mod 10 (Model marked) S/N C 459396 shipped Oct. 1959.
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So the top looks like somewhere between 3295XX and 3398XX.
Can anyone close the gap some more?
Still need some from the bottom.
What was the last 5 screw and first 4 screw.
One more windmill to tilt at.
I have K196446, a five-screw Pre-17. There's bound to be a bunch of five-screws with higher S/Ns. Looks like the change to four screws should be around K260000.
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My lowest sn. K38 CM,also a 4 screw.K281xxx.Who has a 5 screw sn. close to this?
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Have a 4 screw CM #K2771xx, figured it was a Sept.1956 build.Coincidentally that was my build date also
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I have a pre - 15 SN# 3291xx.
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Sorry, I left off the K. The pre-15 is SN# K3291xx.
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Just acquired it today! No model marking (pre-17) 4-screw, serial K269,569, bright blue, matching numbers on cylinder, barrel and star. Target trigger and Hammer, target stocks added.


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Lest we forget...the Model 1902 was a 'Four Screw'...
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I have K22 5 screw K 258967.
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A little poll, K frames only so far.
What is the highest serial number 4 screw without model numbers you have actually seen?
I have a K38 CM that is K329511.
A post below references a M&P, C430xxx.
Does anyone have one higher/later?
My informal research shows post K360,xxx plus or minus to be Model marked.
What is the lowest model marked serial you have.
So let's get back on track here. You only want 4-Screw K-frame guns...you only want Pre-model-marked guns....and you are looking for a high number?

Is that correct?
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What is the lowest model marked serial you have.
Model 19 K3166xx.

I have seen Combat Magnums with higher serial numbers that have more "Pre" attributes than those of model marked 19's too.
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The poll is looking for the highest number and the lowest number. It must be a K frame, no model number and must be a 4-screw.

I think I have the lowest K-22 number posted so far at K269,569.


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I've got 4-screw pre-17 K277251.
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I have 4-screw pre-19 K 260803.
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Pre 15 4-screw at K304486

Pre 18 4-screw at K315467

Pre-19 at K318014

Model Marked 14 at K374853

Model Marked 18 at K433575

Model marked 19 at K391061

Model Marked 48 at K372846
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Pre-19 Blue: K263372
Pre-19 Nickel: K264854


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