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Did I Just Miss Out?
Been watching this 38/44 on ProxiBid and no one seemed interest all week. Finally, someone put in the minimum bid of $750 just before the start this morning. I was honestly thinking of doing a max at $850 just for grins and it went for $800! It has to be a 4-figure gun, right?
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38SPL, 5" Barrel, S/N: S-142751. Smith & Wesson Model: 38-44 Outdoorsman Rare "5-Screw Frame" revolver with nickel finish.
This Smith 38-44 Model of 1950 Pre-Model 20 was manufactured in the mid-50's. Factory nickel finish, 5-screw "S" serial number, and pinned barrel. Serial numbered matching checkered walnut grips with S&W medallions and diamond insert.
**Overall in excellent condition. Retains all of the nickel finish and is in excellent shape. Wood grips show a little wear but are excellent. Trigger and hammer have a nice crisp color case hardening finish to them.**
$1,500-$2,500
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10-20-2022, 02:12 PM
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I'd probably classify that one as a miss, don't worry others will come along.
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Yup. Definitely a swing and a miss. Good learning experience
for next time.
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10-20-2022, 02:51 PM
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No sense dwelling on one that got away.
You probably wouldn't have got it for $850. There was obviously one other person willing to top the initial bid. He well may have gone quite a bit higher and the winners would have been the auction company and the seller.
The winning bidder will pay the $800 gavel price, plus the 16% 23% premium, plus a $12 packaging/handling fee, plus actual UPS/FedEX overnight shipping, plus insurance, plus his FFL's transfer charge, plus any State sales tax. That would add up to about $1200 for me.
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Post a link to the closed auction.
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That is an Outdoorsman? I thought it would be a Heavy Duty. Didn't mid 50's Outdoorsman have an adjustable rear sight and partridge front sight? I have one from 1953 or 54, with the box, and it does not look like that
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That is an Outdoorsman? I thought it would be a Heavy Duty. Didn't mid 50's Outdoorsman have an adjustable rear sight and partridge front sight? I have one from 1953 or 54, with the box, and it does not look like that
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Heavy Duty had fixed sights. Outdoorsman had adjustable. I am unfamiliar with the various adjustable configurations . . .
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Fixed sights and listed as a pre-model 20=38/44 Heavy Duty
Adjustable sights would be a pre-model 23=38/44 Outdoorsman.
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10-20-2022, 05:54 PM
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So it was listed incorrectly as an Outdoorsman?
Still a nice looking piece.
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So it was listed incorrectly as an Outdoorsman?
Still a nice looking piece.
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Did they post pictures of the frame with markings and the cylinder? The finish looks awful nice for the age. Maybe it was renickled?
I believe it was marked incorrectly. I believe the Outdoorsman is worth more
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Was also wondering about the Nickel on that HEAVY DUTY.
Here’s my Outdoorsman.
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Did they post pictures of the frame with markings and the cylinder? The finish looks awful nice for the age. Maybe it was renickled?
I believe it was marked incorrectly. I believe the Outdoorsman is worth more
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All the provided pictures are on the link above. Description says, 'factory nickel' however did not say 'original'. Tough to buy something like that from just pictures.
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I think someone got a heck of a good buy. Not an Outdoorsman, but nickle looks original to me.
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That gun MAY be a Factory renickel. Note that the sides of the front sight blade are sandblasted. I have not seen a 5 screw half moon that I thought was originally sandblasted- they were bright polished in my observation. I have seen half moons that were sandblasted like that when they were sent back for a refinish.
It is possible that slow moving models built very late with a half moon had the sandblasting, but I have yet to see one.
Still, that gun went CHEAP.
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James K:
I think that the Nickel plating is original, i own 2 post war 5" HD Nickel, and they have the same appearence.
In the meantime I have shipped a mail with several pictures to Lee.
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If you want you can transfer the mail with the pictures of the revolvers on the forum.
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Quote:
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That gun MAY be a Factory renickel. Note that the sides of the front sight blade are sandblasted. I have not seen a 5 screw half moon that I thought was originally sandblasted- they were bright polished in my observation. I have seen half moons that were sandblasted like that when they were sent back for a refinish.
It is possible that slow moving models built very late with a half moon had the sandblasting, but I have yet to see one.
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James K:
I think that the Nickel plating is original, i own 2 post war 5" HD Nickel, and they have the same appearence.
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Paul,
Thanks!
I added your pics. I think you have proved that late half moon sights will be sandblasted. Thanks for that. It was sticking in my mind that I MIGHT have seen some on later Heavy Duties but I had not paid enough attention to that model. I have always focused on the 44s.
I'd love to hear the ship dates on those two.
Also- I do not think S&W used a two step plating. I do think the dull appearance is from sandblasting. That was also how they did the matte finish on top of barrel ribs on guns that were blue or nickel. I did not get the pic of the rear of the cylinders. The rear of cylinders are always a little duller on nickel guns because they are not highly polished.
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Paul sent pics of the rear of the cylinders on his guns to show the duller nickel. I think that occurs because the rear of the cylinders were not highly polished in this era.
He stated the ship dates are:
#142374 was shipped 1955
#149330 was shipped 1965
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My birth year gun turned out to be a 38/44. Still in its original nickle. Shipped Nov. '55, just a couple weeks after I was born.
Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk
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Quote:
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My birth year gun turned out to be a 38/44. Still in its original nickle. Shipped Nov. '55, just a couple weeks after I was born.
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Love It! The 38/44 is beautiful, but the popcorn Sambar Stag service style grips are spectacular! For anyone wanting to know why Sambar Stag is superior to Elk, they should see this.
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WOW, that's some serious eye candy there boys......
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