Time to show off the workhorse of the Smith line up. The Military & Police (pre-Model 10) revolvers.

This is my late 1940's .38 special


This is my .32-20 with the classic Wondersight, deadly accurate on this gun.

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Vaya con Dios

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Get up offa that thing

You may get an argument from some about whether the phrase "Pre-10" should be restricted to short-action revolvers, but I like the idea of a classic M&P thread. Here's my "pre-10." which is so old it is even a "pre-1905" -- a 1902/First change from 1904 that I am really fond of, even though I have other long-action M&Ps that have more pronounced look-at-me qualities.

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The good, the bad, and the ugly.


1904




1918




1926




Victory Model




1954




1954




Late 1920's .32-20

We like M&Ps

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Pace

"S" series guns:

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John

Mine, after I found the correct grips.
Rabbit

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A couple of round butts from the 1920's:

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John

1947 w/original nickel finish

Here's a few.
Regards,
turnerriver
SWCA # 1426
NRA Endowment Life member

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Here is a 4", a 4 1/2", and a 5" set of 1899 .38 M&P's .



Regards, Mike Priwer

1928 .38 Special

Just one . . . that I got recently (I always said I wasn't interested in the "older" ones before the model numbers were introduced). I think my addiction just got worse! LOL

This one seems to be about a year older than me. In other words, "born" in 1950 . . .

I love those round butt 6" and 6.5" M&P's........probably one of the best looking revolvers ever made! I have to make it my business to get my hands on one of those , even if it means selling some more rifles!

Here are a couple of early post-war "S" prefix M&P's. Both have the long action, single line address, and large ejector rod heads.

1948 Detroit Police Dept:

I've only got this one. It's a 1948:

I have shown this before but...

Its a 1946 vintage carried by a NYC PD officer. Early post war gun, has finish issues but has lots of cool factor.

Serial SV 8127xx

ca 1918, original nickel, original grips


ca 1914, 1905 first model target, original grips - not perfect, but rare

This was my wife's grandfather's duty weapon. 6" and accurate as anything!

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1946 ??? S 864430




Parker Hale converted Victory


1929 with 5" barrel

My 2" M&P, which is the coolest gun ever.

going by the serial number, I think it is in the 1949 range, more or less



It has a number lightly written on the barrel with an electric pencil. I had figured it was some police inventory number. One person on this board some time ago told me it looked like a case file number.

Here is one more!

Just brought one home tonight. My first gun ever was a M&P. I never should have traded it in when I was ready to upgrade to .357.

This one sort of scratches that old itch: Well I did it. [updated with pics]

Here's my family of .38 special M&P's. A couple of pre-10's, a pair of 4th changers (one in nickel and one of the Boston PD), and an army-navy. I love them all.

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This is such a fine thread with wonderful M&Ps abounding. It's amazing how many M&Ps are kept by our members. Keep 'em coming.

In addition to the 1902/First that I posted above, let me offer for consideration these two more recent M&Ps:


A five inch from 1927 with its box:






And this S-prefix (long-throw hammer) snub from early 1947:




It took me a while to get over my "just plain vanilla" attitude toward M&Ps, but now I like and respect them as much as any of the less common S&W models. If they weren't such fine and reliable pieces of machinery, there never would have been so many of them made, right?

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This gun was the partner to my dad's Official Police Colt;





These are both mint in box, although they were carried briefly in the 40's and 50"s.

Terry

Here's mine from April 1954.

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SWCA 2082

Whoa! So that's what they looked like stinking new. So very nice!

AirCommando, could you post the first three digits of the serial number. I'm trying to pin a couple of mine down. They could all be siblings for all we know.

I also notice that yours still features the half-moon front sight. The one I've got is ramped. Of course it may be a little later than I think it is. I'm wondering when the ramp began supplanting the half-moon.

OK-I'm going in. Here's one from '53:



A nice 6" transition, probably 99%:


And a couple of pre-war 5" shooters:



I know, I know, but it's pre-war and sort-of "fits in". Colt HB OP 6", 1940. 98-99% original finish:

Here's a pic of the SN. Thanks for the compliments.

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Thanks;

Pretty near kin! Yours is 375 numerals lower than my 2-inch. Wonder if they stayed up late talking and giggling after the light was turned off.

My other 4-inch with the ramp sight is 322XXX. I already forgot the rest of the digits though I just got it out to look at it. Looks like the switch-over to ramp from the half-moon occurred sometime during the low C 300000 range.

Well, looks like we narrowed it down; after 304xxx and before 322xxx! Glad to help!

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At last was the light on my balcony that good that I could make clear pictures of a part of my M&P collection.
Shown are a 1902 second issue.
A M&P with a 2 1/2 inch barrel made in 1937.

And a M&P build in 1945 with a S number.

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Theur-

Nice guns, but I think the snub is just a two-inch barrel. Some 2.5-inch M&P's were made in the 1970's, for the FBI and maybe other agencies, before they adopted the three-inch barrel.

But you have the regular snub barrel.

It's good to see you posting again. I missed your posts.

How restrictive are Dutch gun laws?

Thanks,

T-Star

Hi Texas Star,

Thank you that you missed me. I am a litle confused. I posted al ready 1000 post, and when I see my count I see 203.
I am still busy on this great forum. Most post are in the lounge.
I cant miss the contact whit my American fellow Smith nuts.
(if it was on me i already stayed for good in the states)

Alright. The number on the snubnose is without a letter before the serial number . So it isnt in the 70. You are right it is a 2 inch. The frontsight is altred sometimes in a good manner but you can see it becouse the blue is different of the rest of the revolver. I dont believe that the stock is factory. The former owner has bought it in the 60 ties in a pawn shop. It was stuckt away in his colbert with an other revolver. When flying back to Holland. It was a very hot trip. But he didnt dear to put out his jacket afraid of discovery that he has 2 revolvers with him. I love this story.

When I bought this revolver from him he was still convinsed that it was a model 36. I was a litle suprised becouse he was a gunlover and has a lot of knoledge about revolvers.

I asked him how many shots has a model 36. He says 5. Right I sayed hw many shot has this revolver. He says 6. OK, is this then a model 36?

I am very happy with this revolver and payed him more than he asked for.
Becouse the 2 1/2 inch you dont see often. Not in Holland.
I dont want to ripp of a very old and good friend of me.

The Dutch laws are very, and I mean very restrictive.

To own a firearm you has to be a member of a shootingclub.

Before you become a full member you need a decleration of behavior.

That says that you dont have contact with te police in a negitive way for the last 8 yes 8 years.

When you finaly become a member, you have to wait for a full year to buy your first firearm.

Then you have to wait for a full year to buy your next firearm.
We are alloud to buy just 5 yes 5 and I mean just 5 firearms.
That is the restriction.

I havent got that problem. Me great love beside my wife is revolvers.

I love them. I write articles about them I give lectures about every aspect of the great wheelguns. So I have a collecting permit.

There are only 300 people in Holland who own one. I am one of those lucky *******s.
I am very proud of that fact.

But there is a price about that. I still have to publish and give lectures to mentain my permitt.

HaHaHa. No problem. I realy love what I am doing. There is so much to tell about this great subject that I can go till my dead.

I hope that I get very very old. My goal is 110. Than they club me to dead cerimenioly

Here are mine. Vintage M&Ps.

Howard

Shipped January 21, 1947

Shipped November 20, 1947 (7 days after my birthday!)

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These are realy beautifull photo's. Man what a great revolvers.

Here are 3 more with C prefixes. The 4" gun in the middle is the oldest with a 4 digit ser.no.: C 26xx - from May of 1948. The 2" snubby is C102xxx from Feb 1950, and the 5" gun is C 148xxx from Feb. 1951. I'm very fond of these guns with their half-moon front sights and "fishhook" hammers.

Jerry

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I have the big brother to your 5 inch. I picked up this 6 inch in R.I. on my C&R it had the original box and grips number to the gun.
It is s/n C195xxx from Aug 1952

1948


1953

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Here is one I already have a photo of. It is from 1948 and shipped to the King's Gun Sight Co. in San Francisco. It is wearing the King's Super Police Night Sight package.

This has been posted before, so some of you might have already seen it.

I have two of them.

The first one (Left) is an M&P Model of 1905 3rd Change with 6" barrel and a "custom" target hammer and a refinish. Just got the Model of 1905 back from my gunsmith. He informed me that it's in excellent condition. And that itsn't just for a revolver that is 95+ years old either

The second one (Right) is an S prefix Post-War Transitional M&P with 5" barrel and original finish.

Both are great revolvers and in very good condition. Both prefer the classic 158 grain LRN load.

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1905 2nd change shipped in 1906:









Poor photos of a fun old gun...

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Engraved S&W fan

Those are all very cool M&Ps; what stories they could tell! I must find a "birth year" M&P!