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Here's two to get this started....
First, one dating to the mid-1930's -
Another made in the early post-WWII period -
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You all have seen this before, but when threads like this come around you've got to know you are going to see it again.
January 1947:
This guy is always a conversation starter when he gets to the range.
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Here are a couple. I sold the top one but still have the bottom. They are both post-war with grips numbered to the guns. The difference in checkering is interesting.
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Here are a couple. I sold the top one but still have the bottom. They are both post-war with grips numbered to the guns. The fifference in checkering is interesting.
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The one you still have and mine appear to be clones. The serial on mine is in the C52000 range, so I'd bet yours isn't too far off from that.
Furthermore, on the side opposite that shown in the photo of mine, the escutcheon is also a bit off center relative to the diamond, although not quite to the same degree as with yours.
As to the one you no longer own, do you recall if that was an earlier or later gun than the one you kept?
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I'm like David, you've seen it before but it's a snubby M&P thread...
Early 1951 - C 1535XX
...so I get to post it again!
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Mid 1930s? When did S&W start making the 2" M&P? I thought it was later than that.
Again, nothing new. Old guns that everyone has seen. Sorry, not buying guns until I pay off the mortgage.
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Mid 1930s? When did S&W start making the 2" M&P? I thought it was later than that.
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Manufacture was authorized in 1933. The earliest I'm aware of any of these shipping (as confirmed by a factory letter) is in 1934. Initial serial numbers are in the low 600000 range. The first batch is supposed to have been 250 in total, all blue, round butt, with black hard rubber stocks.
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One more, also a Model 10-5 circa 1965, this being a former law enforcement gun as evidenced by the "MOHAVE S O 412" marking stamped into the left side of the topstrap (highlighted for this photograph). Mohave County is in northwestern Arizona bordering California, Nevada, and Utah.
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Thank you. I would comment that my image of the 1930's one doesn't do it justice, the blue is much darker and deeper than it appears in the photo, but it's such a mirror polish that all the reflection makes it look pale.
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Not original grips, but kinda nice looking
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2 inch blue round butt one of first 100 shipped after WW 2
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While I really like the M&P snub.... I Currently only have three.
This 5 screw with "High Speed" hammer is in the C300,000 range (as I recall).
Also have a Model 12-3 from 1972 but since its post 1961 probably doesnt qualify as a "classic".
Also have this nickel 4 screw in the C432000 range from about 1959/1960 ?
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A Model 10-5 with a set of Ahrends grips.
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Couldnt help but notice the early post war Round butt snubs appear to have pre war style checkered stocks.
Are those leftover pre war grips or do they have the post war style washers on the back side?
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Here's another, ... from 1950.
twaits, yours is a real beauty. Any story behind it?
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Since you asked, here's mine, again. This one's my constant companion as of late. Building fence, walking the dogs, tending the garden...
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It was a Detroit PD gun from 1948. I bought it at the Poulin auction a couple years ago. The pearl grips I bought at a flea market years ago for $20
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S prefix --- 25 yard target
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Classic M&P snubnose photo thread
Also seen before- with a Heiser Hi-Ride
semi shoulder holster.
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OK, here is my snubbie. 1968 version with grips serial numbered to frame.
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no dash Model 12
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10-5 C6937XX I think that would put it in the 1963 to 65 range. the case hardening colors are much nicer than they show in the pic. Grips number to the frame.
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I bought them from the forum classifieds before they became unobtainable.
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Wow! What a fine looking bunch of revolvers. So much to buy .... so little money!
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I hate you all...... very beautiful old guns.I had a 1948 snubby pre 10.It was very accurate.I miss it.
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Ex cop gun. I paid the ask of $225 about 5 years ago. I'm not interested in $100 profit, maybe $200...
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Hi doublesharp,
Mighty good looking...
Is this an "S-Prefix" Revolver? Or..?
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Hi doublesharp,
Mighty good looking...
Is this an "S-Prefix" Revolver? Or..?
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When I first saw it, I thought low "C" prefix gun. But the one line ahead of the sideplate suggests it could be an SV prefix (early postwar commercial made up from leftover Victory frames) or even a pre-war (no prefix). If the latter is the case, then either the stocks are pre-war magna (not common) or post-war ones substituted later on (not uncommon with a "cop" gun). Inquiring minds want to know....
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When I first saw it, I thought low "C" prefix gun. But the one line ahead of the sideplate suggests it could be an SV prefix (early postwar commercial made up from leftover Victory frames) or even a pre-war (no prefix). If the latter is the case, then either the stocks are pre-war magna (not common) or post-war ones substituted later on (not uncommon with a "cop" gun). Inquiring minds want to know....
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Serial is S 9708xx and the pc grips don't number. I like this one well enough that I put stags on it that cost near as much as the gun.
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Good call, Oyeboteb. "S" prefix it turns out to be....
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My old one (around 48-49)
and my "new" one. A 10-5 from about 64-65
BOTH of them have cryptic numbers written on them with an "electric pencil". I would presume they are police department inventory numbers.
I have wanted one for years. They are just the neatest things. Nothing like a 2" M&P. My grandfather carried a 2" M&P 10-5 when I was a kid as a deputy sheriff in the 70's with grips he made himself with a thumb shelf. I have seen the bill of sale where he got it at the hardware store. If I remember correctly, it was like $110-$150. Something like that.
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What appears to be a M1905 4th Change M&P 2 inch Snubnose with factory walnut stocks. Mint.
It ain't mine.
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My sincerest apologies for using my first post to Necro this 14 month old thread, but I need help identifying my particular M&P.
I don't have access to it for pictures at the moment (it's located at my family's cabin in Northern California), but I have an M&P 2" inherited from a friend of my father's who passed away 7 years ago.
It looks almost the same as the ones that have been pictured so far EXCEPT:
1. I was told it originally had a nickel finish (blued now). Were there any made in Nickel to validate this claim?
2. It does NOT have a supported guide rod (similar to the Colt revolvers made at the time).
I know it's a S&W because of the cylinder release and the markings on it. I don't remember the SN off the top of my head, but it's original owner served in the War and passed away at the age of 88 in 2007 if that helps at all. It also has the round front sights and originally came with black plastic grips.
All the M&Ps I've seen in this thread so far all have supported guide rods (the small piece of metal in front of the guide rod, parallel to the barrel). Is mine a rare variant or was it never made that way in the factory (modified by owner)?
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RMP91, welcome to the forum.
When you see a snubnose M&P without a forward locking lug to support the front end of the ejector rod, it is almost always a British Service Revolver whose barrel has been cut from five inches to two. In the process, the locking lug is lost. These BSRs (which can have serial numbers in -- round numbers -- the 700000-999999 range, and then from V1 through about V800000) were produced from 1940-1945 and chambered the .38 S&W cartridge, not .38 Special. As part of the conversion, chambers were bored out to take the longer .38 S&W Special cartridge. I suspect that is what you have. Many of these guns were proofed out of British service into the commercial market in the 1950s, then imported to North America as inexpensive revolvers. Their collector value is essentially nil because they are so heavily modified, but they retain some value as shooter grade revolvers. Because of differing case dimensions, .38 Special brass can swell or even split along about half its length if fired in a converted cylinder. But you should be able to shoot the shorter .38 S&W rounds without trouble. Pay attention to the yoke and cylinder. If the unit is loose or wobbles back and forth without the front locking lug, it may be a good idea just to retire the gun.
Original nickel two-inch M&Ps existed in the commercial civilian market, but a BSR in nickel has been refinished.
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RMP91, welcome to the forum.
When you see a snubnose M&P without a forward locking lug to support the front end of the ejector rod, it is almost always a British Service Revolver whose barrel has been cut from five inches to two. In the process, the locking lug is lost. These BSRs (which can have serial numbers in -- round numbers -- the 700000-999999 range, and then from V1 through about V800000) were produced from 1940-1945 and chambered the .38 S&W cartridge, not .38 Special. As part of the conversion, chambers were bored out to take the longer .38 S&W Special cartridge. I suspect that is what you have. Many of these guns were proofed out of British service into the commercial market in the 1950s, then imported to North America as inexpensive revolvers. Their collector value is essentially nil because they are so heavily modified, but they retain some value as shooter grade revolvers. Because of differing case dimensions, .38 Special brass can swell or even split along about half its length if fired in a converted cylinder. But you should be able to shoot the shorter .38 S&W rounds without trouble. Pay attention to the yoke and cylinder. If the unit is loose or wobbles back and forth without the front locking lug, it may be a good idea just to retire the gun.
Original nickel two-inch M&Ps existed in the commercial civilian market, but a BSR in nickel has been refinished.
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That doesn't seem to be possible, my father and I shot a good 100-200 rounds of .38 Special out of it just fine... I've looked all over for pictures of the M&P I have but it appears to be unique in that it has an unsupported guide rod... This is truly a mystery.
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