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02-05-2013, 09:41 PM
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Welcome to the Forum!
If the gun and box label are marked Model 18, the gun is not from 1955. My guess is you got that date (April 15, 1955) from the inside bottom of the box. That date applies to the liability and warranty statements printed in the box. It does not apply to the gun. These statements and the date remained in S&W boxes well into the Bangor Punta era of the 1960s and 1970s. I have several boxes marked Bangor Punta that have this printing in them.
If you post the serial number, someone can give you an estimated shipping year for your revolver.
The .22 Combat Masterpiece is a wonderful little gun. I'm sure you will get lots of affirmation of this from other posters.
Congratulations on owning a wonderful revolver.
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This is a model 18-3 serial#1k94038 can anyone help me to determine year made and ball park value Thanks
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02-06-2013, 02:02 AM
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This is a model 18-3 serial#1k94038 can anyone help me to determine year made and ball park value Thanks
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New thread !!! Circular thinking.
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02-06-2013, 08:12 AM
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Over the last 30 years I've bought and sold and bought again six M-18's. They have all been wonderful. The last one I bought (2002) ran $325 OTD. At that time, the price was I thought high. But, I swapped off a Yugoslavian M-98/47 and some ammo and put $100 with it to get the 18-3. Nowadays, if I want a nice M-98 for shooting, etc., I can find one in the rack at the local gun shop. M-18's are more difficult to find. If I found a M-18 that was in the condition shown in your photograph, I'd buy it. As to price, you'll not notice $25/50/100 later down the road. JMHO. Sincerely. brucev.
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11-22-2013, 12:30 PM
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What do you find better about these guns than the earlier ones?
My 1955 with TT & TH... $300 back in February, part of a multi-gun deal.
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Only other one than mine that I have seen with RR. Mine is 3T, RR, WO, 18-2, only the slightest thinning blue on left muzzle keeping it from being 99%. Haven't brought myself to shoot it yet.
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11-22-2013, 06:38 PM
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The stocks on my gun above were not original to the gun so I didn't feel too bad about having Keith Brown make me some exhibition grade Ropers for it. They were more than the gun but sure look great and feel great in the hand. Promise to get a better picture up soon.
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ALWAYS inspect a K-22 thoroughly for any mechanical defects.
"A gun that don't shoot aint' nothin but a fancy paperweight."
The one thing to look for when inspecting a K-22 is on the
face of the cylinder between the chambers,,
if the gun has been fired rapidly, or, dry fired you may observe
some dimples in the face of the cylinder where the firing pin
has struck out of time.
This observed , to me, removes about $100. from the value.
And seems to be more common the older the K-22 is.
Hope this helps.
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I have the opportunity to purchase a Pre-Model 18 5-screw that would make a very nice shooter.
All the numbers match including the original stocks.
It's priced too high, but I'll address that if I pursue the gun.
My concern is what is referenced in the quote above regarding dimples in the face of the cylinder where the firing pin has struck out of time.
The gun I looked has this damage and it's not pretty.
Will this type of damage cause any issues with shooting the gun? I am ignorant when it comes to these .22's.
I'm going to get some photos sometime in the near future if the gun doesn't sell first and will post them here for opinions/feedback/guidance.
Regards,
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These are probably never going to be for sale--I hope my kids like them as much as I do!
The middle one is a very early example, shipped in 1950--most of these have the flat-topped front sight.
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02-12-2014, 11:23 AM
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My concern is what is referenced in the quote above regarding dimples in the face of the cylinder where the firing pin has struck out of time.
Will this type of damage cause any issues with shooting the gun? Regards,
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I guess old threads like old soldiers never die,
TP the firing pin is denting the cylinder face as a rsult of the gun being out of "Time",
That is to say the cylinder stop notch did not engage which results in the cylinder bore to be out of alignment with the barrel ,
If the cylinder and barrel are not in alignment at the time the trigger is pulled the firing pin will strike the cylinder face instead of the cartridge leaving a dent in the cylinder instead of the case head.
What you would experience while shooting is a "click" instead of a Bang.
Once the revolver is fixed the dimples are cosmetic .
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I had wanted a birth year K-22 (1955) and found one described as 99%+ from a reputable dealer. Got the the gun and it looked great, as though it had never been used, until I dropped the cylinder out. He apologized and sent me back my full payment including shipping.
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Just shows you what a couple years will do. I would not let my 18-2 go for what the OP posted.
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02-12-2014, 07:39 PM
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This is a model 18-3 serial#1k94038 can anyone help me to determine year made and ball park value Thanks
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1K39,501 – 1K99,999...1971
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02-13-2014, 12:21 PM
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Problem with this cylinder would be where the firing pin dented the edge of case head recess and probably would make loading and unloading difficult at best, probably would prevent the case head from seating flush.
Brings up two points, NEVER dry fire a K22 with empty chambers, If a K22 goes click instead of bang inspect it for timing issues right away, looks like this owner let it go for some time .
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03-03-2014, 11:45 AM
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Only other one than mine that I have seen with RR. Mine is 3T, RR, WO, 18-2, only the slightest thinning blue on left muzzle keeping it from being 99%. Haven't brought myself to shoot it yet.
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Another Red Ramp Gun from the same era, early 1950's. Same ramp as mine, I assume they installed at the factory.
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mod 18, 5 screw
How does this one look? Looks like it has never been fired.
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04-02-2014, 03:53 PM
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It's beautiful, but it sure isn't a Model 18......Welcome to the Forum BTW. Thats quite an entrance. I would start a new thread and post several pic's of that one. You will get quite a warm welcome showing that one off......
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It's beautiful, but it sure isn't a Model 18......Welcome to the Forum BTW. Thats quite an entrance. I would start a new thread and post several pic's of that one. You will get quite a warm welcome showing that one off......
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What do you think it is?
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04-02-2014, 04:59 PM
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It's an "N" frame revolver. Check out the below link.
To IDENTIFY your Gun >
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mod 18 s&w
824tsv you are probably right as I have a pic of a pre mod 27 in the same folder with the pre mod 18. I must have posted the the wrong pic sorry about that. I will try to get the correct one.
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You should post pic's of both of those in a new thread. They both look beautiful. With a new thread you will get a lot more views by very knowledgeable members who would very much enjoy looking at those two......
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