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05-22-2013, 09:22 AM
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There may be no 22 rimfire ammo available...
But I'm A-Ok on 22 Jet ammo for my four screw Model 53.
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05-22-2013, 04:19 PM
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05-22-2013, 05:16 PM
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After you shoot all that jet ammo and your throat is so
worn,your velocities have dropped so much you will
be praying for 22 rimfire ammo! . Pete
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05-23-2013, 02:01 PM
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No personal first-hand experience, but conventional wisdom seems to be that the .22 Jet fired cases tend to stick in the chambers, making extraction difficult. Has that been your experience? Were there not inserts to allow using .22 RF in the .22 Jet chambers?
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05-23-2013, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DWalt
No personal first-hand experience, but conventional wisdom seems to be that the .22 Jet fired cases tend to stick in the chambers, making extraction difficult. Has that been your experience? Were there not inserts to allow using .22 RF in the .22 Jet chambers?
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You are exactly correct that extracting the fired Jet case can be a problem. More so, the shape of the cartridge can lead to the case moving to the rear of the cylinder upon firing causing the gun to bind and stop operating. The culprit in these cases is lubrication on the cartridge or in the chamber. The brass can expand and the hydraulic pressure created between the case and cylinder wall can cause the issues. When I shoot mine I carefully clean the cartridge and the cylinder walls with rubbing alcohol to remove all traces of oil etc.. Using this method I have never experienced a problem. The problems described above led to the demise of the Model 53.
The 53 did include inserts that could be used to fire .22 LR in the gun but using a dedicated .22 LR gun always seemed a better option to me.
Problems aside, the Jet is a very enjoyable gun to shoot if you use double ear protection. A terrific crack and fireball, very high velocity and negligible recoil. As a previous post indicated throat erosion is a problem and ammo loaded to less than maximum will help to prevent the issue.
Rogerdog, that is a great looking 53! Have you fired it yet?
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05-23-2013, 04:54 PM
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" A terrific crack and fireball, very high velocity and negligible recoil. "
Just like shooting GI .30 Carbine rounds in a Ruger Blackhawk.
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05-23-2013, 10:35 PM
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I so want a 6" shooter grade 53. I have bought brass, dies, and bullets - it's going to happen some day!
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05-24-2013, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hsguy
You are exactly correct that extracting the fired Jet case can be a problem. More so, the shape of the cartridge can lead to the case moving to the rear of the cylinder upon firing causing the gun to bind and stop operating. The culprit in these cases is lubrication on the cartridge or in the chamber. The brass can expand and the hydraulic pressure created between the case and cylinder wall can cause the issues. When I shoot mine I carefully clean the cartridge and the cylinder walls with rubbing alcohol to remove all traces of oil etc.. Using this method I have never experienced a problem. The problems described above led to the demise of the Model 53.
The 53 did include inserts that could be used to fire .22 LR in the gun but using a dedicated .22 LR gun always seemed a better option to me.
Problems aside, the Jet is a very enjoyable gun to shoot if you use double ear protection. A terrific crack and fireball, very high velocity and negligible recoil. As a previous post indicated throat erosion is a problem and ammo loaded to less than maximum will help to prevent the issue.
Rogerdog, that is a great looking 53! Have you fired it yet?
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Yep I've fired it. I traded for it last winter and its been getting some use now with the nice weather. The gun looks pristine because the previous owner sent it off to Smith for a refurb a few years ago. I'm surprised they didn't take it upon themselves to drill a lock hole in it.
I have a set of inserts and most of the firing has been with 22LR. The jet ammo shown are reloads and they are loaded at a perfect sweet spot, not anemic but also not so hot that the gun locks up and suffers premature throat erosion. Some older jet fans taught me that the best tool you can have is a can of lighter fluid to wash out the cylinder and wipe down the ammo to avoid lockups.
It does tend to draw attention when fired at the range. I'm used to that however as I've been playing alot with 22 Fireball in handguns for a few years.
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05-24-2013, 11:55 AM
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jets are the best.
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