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Old 01-20-2014, 11:44 PM
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Hello, my name is Jose Flavio and I'm from Brazil . I would like your help to identify this S&W revolver that my grandfather gave me.

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* Excuse me if there are any errors, but I'm using an online translator.
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Welcome to the Forum, Jose! The picture is of an early hand ejector S&W revolver, however to tell you exactly what model it is, you need to tell use more details, and post more pictures. What is the serial number on the butt? what is the caliber? How many chambers in the cylinder? , and most of all - tell us all the stampings and numbers on the gun and where they are all located. Ed.
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Welcome to the Forum. Your Military & Police would be an early one made before 1927. Your revolver looks like it might have been buffed and maybe re-nickeled, plus the trigger and hammer appear to have a deep blue applied, but more pictures would help make a more accurate determination.

As Ed states, extra pictures of the barrel and caliber stamping, plus the number stamped on the butt are needed to give you more details. I really like the longer barrel length on this model and they are very accurate with waddcutter ammo.
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Please tell me about my gun.
38 S&W Special OTG numbers on barrel Oct 08, 01 Dec 07, 01 Feb 06, 08 Sep. 04 , 09 Dec 29, 14 Ser. # 336600 Thank you
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First of all, I would like to thank everyone who tried to help me in identifying this gun. I'm sending new photos to try to help identify her. As a colleague mentioned she was really re-nickeled (this is why I'm trying to identify it as the stamp of the S & W which is the mirror on the right was cleared and would like to purchase a new original mirror). It is a S & W .38 special, 6 cameras in the cylinder. The serial number has 5 digits, but this unreadable.

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Old 01-21-2014, 11:13 AM
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38 S&W Special OTG numbers on barrel Oct 08, 01 Dec 07, 01 Feb 06, 08 Sep. 04 , 09 Dec 29, 14 Ser. # 336600 Thank you
Welcome to the forum. Your gun is probably a .38 Military & Police (also called a Model of 1905) that dates to about 1920. If you can post some photos, we can confirm that.

The stamp you reference actually reads CTG, which is the abbreviation for cartridge.

Feel free to start your own thread for a new gun. Sometimes the second gun in a thread can get lost in the shuffle as people focus on the first one mentioned.
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Jose, welcome to the forum. The small pin that you can see on the left side of the gun is associated with an engineering change that dates to 1906, so your grandfather's revolver was manufactured during a period that reached from about 1906 to 1927.

I think one digit of the serial number may have been polished off the butt of the gun. Can you see smaller numbers stamped on the flat underside of the barrel or the rear face of the cylinder? Those numbers should repeat the larger serial number stamped on the butt.
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Jose, welcome to the forum. The small pin that you can see on the left side of the gun is associated with an engineering change that dates to 1906, so your grandfather's revolver was manufactured during a period that reached from about 1906 to 1927.

I think one digit of the serial number may have been polished off the butt of the gun. Can you see smaller numbers stamped on the flat underside of the barrel or the rear face of the cylinder? Those numbers should repeat the larger serial number stamped on the butt.
unfortunately I found none of these numbers. Were probably polished. This weapon arece have been renovated, but this should have been done many years ago, because my grandfather acquired it, probably in the 70s or 80s.

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You do have 5 numbers stamped on the bottom of the gun and if the stocks are original, they are the large gold medallion style from the era 1911-1920. A five digit serial number would put the gun before 1908, so something is not quite right. If you remove the stocks, you might find a number stamped inside the right stock. As David suggested, check the back of the cylinder with a magnifying glass to see if you can find the serial number?

If all serial numbers have been destroyed, there is no other way to give you an accurate age, plus the gun would be illegal to own here in the United States, but that may not matter in the country in which you live.

Just saw your post, which gives you the option of looking behind the wood stocks, but that will not necessarily give you the answer if the stocks were not original.
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I'd agree that it's a S&W Military Model (Model of 1902 with round butt) revolver from rather early in the 20th Century, and the grips are not original.
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