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1905 4th Chng Round or Square Butt
Completed a deal for a 1905 4th change today (see earlier post about it). Folks seem to think it is circa 1923 based on serial number. Worked out a $250 price partially based on the replacement grips.
Here's the question: The Standard Catalog says the square butt version is "scarce." So I think I have a square butt version. (See pictures) Is it really scarce? And anyone want to take a guess at value?
I'm going to look for some K-frame replacement grips at
Numrich
Grips, Square Butt, Old Style, Service, Checkered (w/ Medallion; Fair
and also look for some standard K-frame Hogues or Pachs for range time. Anyone have any suggestions, I'm open.
This is a neat old gun. Can't wait to get to the range (just bought some 158 gr. LRNs to shoot).
Here's some pictures:
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10-17-2017, 10:21 PM
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It is definitely a square butt. I would say what you paid for it is a fair price.
Now that I have a 1914, 1921, 1924, 1926, 1939 and 1941 Model of 1905 I'll not pay over $250 for the next one.
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You won't need rubber for range time with a .38 Special. Every 4th change I have seen is square butt. I have three. Enjoy!
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10-17-2017, 10:31 PM
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Square butts are common, round butts less common.
That was an acknowledged mistake in the 3d Edition of the SCSW.
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10-17-2017, 10:38 PM
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As JayCeeNC said, this was a mistake in the SCSW which occasionally forces us to crush hopes of folks who think they snagged a rarity .
But $250 for a 1923 square-butt M&P in that condition is a great deal, even if you want to get correct replacement stocks, and even better if you don’t.
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" Anyone have any suggestions, I'm open."
Look on eBay.
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10-18-2017, 02:32 AM
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Thanks for pointing out the mistake....I didn't buy it for anything but a piece of "living" history and craftsmanship I could afford. And I will look for more correct grips for it.
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10-18-2017, 04:19 AM
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The style you seek is service (small), rounded top, checkered, no medallions. Looking in the Accessories for sale section or posting a Wanted to Buy ad here will probably find you a set.
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If you bought it as a shooter, why bother with period correct grips? They are less comfortable to shoot than rubber grips. Plus, IMO, grips from the '20's are ugly compared to most other decades of S&W grips with medallions. I'd put the money into some elkhorn magnas or target grips.
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IMO . Pachs look just awful on a revolver of that period. If you really need to "get a grip" at the range , targets are a nice option as suggested above , and very , very manageable. A little incongruous for the piece , but still pleasing to the eye GREAT for shooting. And there a lots of them around.
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Even with those stocks, $250.00 was a steal. Looks like a really nice one. I cringe when I see rubber grips on such a classic revolver, but the originals aren't that comfortable for shooting. Whatever you use, enjoy it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redcoat3340
Completed a deal for a 1905 4th change today (see earlier post about it). Folks seem to think it is circa 1923 based on serial number. Worked out a $250 price partially based on the replacement grips.
Here's the question: The Standard Catalog says the square butt version is "scarce." So I think I have a square butt version. (See pictures) Is it really scarce? And anyone want to take a guess at value?
I'm going to look for some K-frame replacement grips at
Numrich
Grips, Square Butt, Old Style, Service, Checkered (w/ Medallion; Fair
and also look for some standard K-frame Hogues or Pachs for range time. Anyone have any suggestions, I'm open.
This is a neat old gun. Can't wait to get to the range (just bought some 158 gr. LRNs to shoot).
Here's some pictures:
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Me, I would try those eagle head grips that came with it for range time.
You might like them.
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Also try gunsinternational.com. They have a whole category of stocks/grips. Also try Altamonts.
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The suggestion offered by Kurusu has merit. You already have those grips - they may be good shooters. Give them a try and report back.
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