Saw a 5 screw pre-29 that has an extra hole in sideplate about 1/8" below top plate screw. Seller refered to it being 1 of 200 factory made for peep sight. No letter or box, but was wearing cokes. Has anyone heard of or seen such critter?

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S&W would do lots of things if the person ordering the revolver was willing to pay extra, but I seriously doubt they made a run of 200 revolvers.

Bill

I have never heard of that before. Very unlikely since we probably would have seen one by now in person or in the records.

King made a peep sight applicable for pre-war revolvers.

When it comes to such for .44 Magnums, if Doctor Cross (who has likely forgotten more than the rest of us know about .44 Magnums) seriously doubts the story you've been told, then I'm comfortable in not believing a word of it---no way---nohow!!

A wise man once said, "Buy the gun, not the story.".

Ralph Tremaine

Thanks for the responses, about what I was thinking. The "Wondersight" was made to fit sideplate screw offering an adjustment for fixed sight guns. No need with pre-29. It would be possible to use a peep sight blade on the existing sight. (like RMs, except for nut) I can't figure out what that hole might have been for. Different seller had Wyatt Earp's 38DA "backup" gun for $13,000,000. (As humor) I offered to trade Hitler's glock for it if he would pay $100,000 boot

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I have several new old stock Wondersights. As you know, they use the 5th screw in the sidepleplate. Never heard of a reason to drill an additional hole. There were some pre-war replacement sight blades that were peep and I've even seen some modified post-war blades turned into peep. They all used existing parts and holes.

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Chris
SWCA #2243 SWHF #292

Factory equipped S&W's with peep sights are rare, as revealed by the N Frame that was sold on Gunbroker yesterday for over $10,000, and there were multiple bidders at that price range.

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SWCA1967 SWHF244

Was there a letter documenting same or did the seller merely sell a good story. As Ralph said," buy the gun, not the story."

Since the auction is closed can you post a link or the item number? Would love to check it out personally as I continue my S&W education.

For the OP, maybe it was an oil hole???

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James Redfield
LM #497

MUCH provenance on that gun. It was correct in all ways.

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Here is a pic of King peep sight blade for pre-war guns (like one in auction). The hole was threaded, so you could screw in different size aperture discs. Works great in good light, terrible in low light. Without the disc, it was like a "ghost ring"

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How much on a cash sale for Hitler's Glock?
I'm very interested!

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Lee Jarrett

Any pictures?

As those of you who are familiar with pre-war S&W target sights (of the later variety) will instantly recognize, the base of the King peep sight (that below the "peep" part) is exactly the same as the base for the S&W sight blade. You will then also realize the installation of the King item involves loosening the S&W windage screws, removing the S&W blade, and replacing it with the King item----and tightening the windage screws. Done. And not only are you done, but the King peep is now fully adjustable as was the S&W blade. No fuss, no muss, and no bother!

Ralph Tremaine

And assuming for the moment the gun in the auction (which fetched $10,000) is equipped with the King item (and noting any/all King items for S&W products were available from S&W on order), then the fact the gun fetched such a sum fair boggles the mind!! At this point we are left to suppose the fact only six RM's were shipped with peep sights supports/justifies such a value. And if that's the case, we are all more than just a little bit nutty!!

Chapter Next: And then, wondering where I got the idea there were six RM's shipped with peep sights, I went back over this thread----nothing. Then I watched the video again---and listened. Sure enough, the RIA folks said it was one of only six---and "documented" yet. I'm not exactly sure what the documentation is. It seems like a (also) documented lunatic fringe S&W sight nut like myself would have come across such documentation previously. I guess I just haven't been paying close attention. Given a few spare moments, I guess I'll go over Mr. Jinks' dissertation on the RM's----yet again. It is well and truly LOADED with documentation of all sorts of RM stuff. I hope I find the peep sight stuff. Otherwise, it way well be it's business as usual.

Well, as you know, Elvis was stationed in Germany while in the Army. It was there he traded a harmonica for the gun. It was in Elvis' collection until recently, when he sold it to me after retiring from the Wedding Chapel in Vegas. As a historical footnote, had he traded his guitar instead of his harmonica, the course of musical history may have drastically changed. Ralph will verify the inauthenticity of the claims. It is only available on trade. I couldn't put a price on history.

I think I forgot to mention, it has the exceedingly rare Glock peep sight!!!

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I'll reserve comment on the first quote but, I suppose a Factory letter would provide documentation on the gun, like this one below. link to thread on it REGISTERED DEER HUNT

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A factory letter would most certainly provide such documentation---as would the records from which the letter was created. Those would be the exact same records from which Jinks' RM dissertation was created. Now, we could most certainly suppose Roy missed the part about peep sights (six times) as he poured over those records during the creation of his dissertation. Anything is possible. Some things are unlikely.

But----having been a student studying Mr. Jinks' work for a loooooooooooooong time, I have come to the realization he doesn't miss much. As a matter of fact, pretty much every time I think I've caught an error or omission in his work, it turns out I was the one who missed something---not him.

Ralph Tremaine

Got any interest in a custom 1911 built on an Essex frame that was carried by Billy The Kid?
I'd trade even.
Have you seen Elvis lately?

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Lee Jarrett

Eric Ohlen who does modification to bullet molds either sells the wonder sight or has a link on his webpage where to get them. Bought one for my Brazilian 1937 contract revolver. Hope this helps anyone who's interested. Frank