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King Sighted Guns ... and a Corny King Poem
I know that we have lots of threads about King sights. But that is because they are so dang cool.  So I hope that you're not too offended that I start another one...
A few months ago, at a local Show and Tell with a bunch of King enthusiasts we were asked to bring our King sighted guns AND a Poem about King Sights. When it came time to share poetry, this is the corny poem that I wrote and shared (get ready to roll your eyes)  :
KINGs
by RKmesa 2020
I bought lots of guns in the Thirties
But the sights did not work with my eyes.
They were short, small and narrow
On top of the barrel,
Almost, as if in disguise.
The screws that attached them were tiny
And always seemed to shoot loose.
When the matches were tight
Sights would shift to the right
…At least that would be my excuse.
Then I noticed the guy that was winning
With groups that were all in the ring
His slick Smith & Wesson
Showed fruits of progression
With sights and a rib that said “KING”.
So I cleaned and oiled my revolver
And scrubbed it up with a brush
Then with check and a letter
“Please, please make my gun better…”
Off to King’s it went in a rush.
It finally returned three months later
And I opened the box all a stammer,
There lay beauty and function
My Smith at the junction
New Rib, Sights, and cased cockeyed hammer.
When back at the range with my buddies
My King Super Target in hand
I achieved all my goals
Punching tight ragged holes
In the paper attached to the stand.
So for shooters who live in the desert
If you want folks your praises to sing,
Put in effort and practice
But don’t shoot the cactus
And... make sure that your sights are stamped “KING”.
And these are the guns that I took to the Show N Tell.
An early post-war M&P King Supertarget:
An early K-22 Outdoorsman Super Target:
A K-22 4" Masterpiece:
A 38/44 Outdoorsman King Super Target:
A RM that shipped to King (Cockeyed Hammer, Sights and trigger stop):
A pre-war M&P King Super Police (engraved by Orville Kuhl):
... and a few more RMs with King front sights.
I would love to see your Kings, even if they have been posted a hundred times...
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Im just pretty jealous overall. The Smiths and
the fact you have a group that meets nearby to share
the Gun collecting with. Apparantly a decent group of guys. Luv the King pcs you've found. Cant even pick one
out over the others. THE 38/44 and the 4 inch 22
are nice though. Great pics and sharing effort w us.
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Here are a couple big-bore full-rib S&W King Super Target triplelock revolvers.
The bottom revolver is .44 Special, and the top revolver is .44 Russian.
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Great post! Nothing corny about that poem, it brought a tear to my eye.
The only pistol I have that has the King treatment Is stamped with a little horse.
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Richard - that PW M&P snubby is incredible!!! You just made my week with that gun.
Of course the others are great too 
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Nice, Richard. The poem made me grin and the guns made me reel.
It's too hot to do any yard work today, so I have a chance to dig out my guns with King mods and rephotograph them. I'll add them to your thread if that actually happens.
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Richard, I nominate you as the Official Forum Bard of King Sights! I would add engraving, but haven't seen your engraving poem yet  Beautiful guns there too!!
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, my dream is still for a set of Super Police sights installed on my Baby Chief’s Special. If I’ve got my dates right, that would not have happened in the King’s Gunworks shop though. The timing wouldn’t match up. 
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Pre-war K-22 King Super Target, K frame Ropers.
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Here’s a 4in King Super Target. Not nearly as nice as the ones in this thread but pretty interesting with the 4in barrel.
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My only King Sighted gun. Registered Magnum 2269.
The base is original, but I'm not sure about the sight blade.
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K22 Outdoorsman S/N 661299. One of four shipped April 16, 1937 to D.W. King Co., San Francisco, CA. This revolver was outfitted by King to include a King Super Target rib sight and Cockeyed hammer.
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This is a 2nd model hand ejector 44 Special with King rib and Roper grips.
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Here are a couple of mine.....two 38/44's and a model of 1950 Military 44 Hand Ejector. All got the King's treatment somewhere along the way.
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This is a 2nd model hand ejector 44 Special with King rib and Roper grips.
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We have a poet and didn't know it.
Wow all the nice King sighted guns. I must say that engraved snub nose really trips my trigger.
Thanks for showing them.
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Please excuse the (colt), its my only King sighted gun.
King marked Cockeyed hammer, short action, sanderson grips.
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K-22 Masterpiece
A November 1948 shipped K-22 Masterpiece with King reflector base front sight w/ivory bead and a U-shaped rear notch . . . maker of grips unknown but original magnas are in the box.
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Very well done Richard................
Never having been qualified as a critic of poetry I can say that your poem beat the heck out of some I've tried to read. Not well qualified on the engraved guns either but as an interested observer your "Guns" are a sight for sore eyes!
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Sorry to bring up an old thread, but not sure whether the tears are from the satire of the poem, or the beauty of the guns....Hopefully on the verge of adding a pic or two to this thread...
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Here are a couple big-bore full-rib S&W King Super Target triplelock revolvers.
Regards, Mike Priwer
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How about posting a photo or two of the snub 38 King Super Target... please? 
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Sorry to bring up an old thread, but not sure whether the tears are from the satire of the poem, or the beauty of the guns....Hopefully on the verge of adding a pic or two to this thread...
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My single King-sighted gun pales in comparison to those shown in this thread, but here goes anyway...
A .38-44 Heavy Duty from 1949 that was converted for target (Bullseye) use, possibly by Kings. It has King sights on it with the reflector front sight. The hammer was reworked, but not to the "cockeyed" configuration - just broadened and checkered the spur - it is stamped Micro. The stocks are by Keith Brown...
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Lot of absolutely beautiful guns in this thread. Lots of Roper grips as well. I don't recall ever seeing so many in one place before.
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Just as an aside, I was looking through the list of guns for a live auction in Waco this coming weekend, and saw a King Super Target listed...It's online if anyone is interested... ...Ben
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Wow! Beautiful revolvers here.
1940 Colt Shooting Master 357 with King rear sight and Cockeyed hammer:
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Two with factory installed King front sights…..
REG 5008 from 1939 with Baughman QD/King Ramp…..
And .357 Magnum Transitional S71486 from 1948 with King Ramp Reflector Gold Bead…..
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Couple quick questions. Who (KB?) made the grips for the RM ? Who made the grips for the King Super Police (engraved by Orville Kuhl)? Was it Kuhl ?
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Please excuse the (colt), its my only King sighted gun.
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My first revolver purchase after getting out of the army was a Colt Officer's Match piece like this without Sandersons. Most accurate revolver I've ever owned, I traded it back to the dealer that sold it to me for a Colt Trooper .357 and a box of shells...the red flags and warning buzzers should have gone off because he never gave anyone a deal. Later when I noticed the piece in his "special" case with a highly marked up price and mentioned it to me he replied "King don't work anymore, but you probably didn't know that."
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Couple quick questions. Who (KB?) made the grips for the RM? Who made the grips for the King Super Police (engraved by Orville Kuhl)? Was it Kuhl ?
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Yes, the RM grips are an earlier set of Keith Brown's Kearsarge style grips.
I believe that the pearl grips on the 2" King Super Police are factory grips that were added after the gun left the factory. It letters as shipping from the factory with "checkered walnut non-monogram round butt grips." It shipped on Nov 27, 1933 to Adolf Blaich, 583 Market Street, San Francisco, CA, and I have been told that it is among the earliest 2" M&Ps known to have been shipped.
On the other hand, I believe that the grips on the Kuhl engraved K-22 O/D (post 24 above) were carved by Kuhl. They are similar to grips on this Kuhl engraved RM (photographed with the Kuhl K-22 Outdoorsman)...
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Mike:
The RM grips are one of the earlier set of Keith Brown's Kearsarge style grips.
I always believed that the pearl grips on the 2" King Super Police were factory grips that were added after the gun left the factory. Working from memory, I believe that it letters as shipping from the factory with standard wood grips. The 2"er shipped on Nov 27, 1933 to Adolf Blaich, a distributer in SF, and I have been told that it is among the earliest 2" M&Ps known to be shipped.
On the other hand, I believe that the grips on the Kuhl engraved K-22 O/D (post 24 above) were carved by Kuhl. They are similar to grips on this Kuhl engraved RM...
... here they are together...
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Honestly my Dad didn't have much to add about this 38-44. Haven't seen too many sleeved front sights from Kings floating around. She sure shoots well though! 20231216_081608.jpg20231216_081543.jpg20231215_140352.jpg
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Damn I had to wipe the drool off my computer screen 3 times before I got to the end of this thread. Thanks to all for showing some nice firearms.
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Thanks to the last resuscitation of the thread here we have a spectacular show of awesome sights, hammers and grips all together. I apologize for the off topic question: in Europe I think they never arrived, apart some single collectors maybe. Anyway, even if someone imported a King sighted handgun, never showed it and kept it for himself. In other words, only EU members of this forum know these magnificent optionals.
Since my first arrival here, several years ago, I’ve been attracted by all this vintage stuff, and thanks to you all I learned their history. I have been solicited by a writer of one of our national main firearms magazine to write an article about this topic, so, before or after, I’ll do it. I’d like to publish some pics to embellish the text and describe them.
I believe it is fair to ask for permission to use the pictures posted here or in others posts of the forum. Please tell me if you agree , or if someone prefers to avoid sharing them. Thanks,
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I believe it is fair to ask for permission to use the pictures posted here or in others posts of the forum. Please tell me if you agree , or if someone prefers to avoid sharing them. Thanks,
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Giorgio, I don't think I posted any photos of my one and only King sighted S&W, but I will endeavor to unearth it from my safe, and try to take a few pics of it for you...In the meantime, you have not only my permission, but my encouragement also to use any of my photos I've posted on this site for any article you may write... ...Ben
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...I have been solicited by a writer of one of our national main firearms magazine to write an article about this topic, so, before or after, I’ll do it. I’d like to publish some pics to embellish the text and describe them.
I believe it is fair to ask for permission to use the pictures posted here or in others posts of the forum. Please tell me if you agree , or if someone prefers to avoid sharing them. Thanks,
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Feel free to use my photos as well. That said - it is typical that you would give the photographer credit in the photo captions.
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And this particular photographer is well worthy of the credit! They don't get any better---or if they do, I haven't seen it!!
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Honestly my Dad didn't have much to add about this 38-44. Haven't seen too many sleeved front sights from Kings floating around.
She sure shoots well though!
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Beautiful gun. As a 38/44 collector and a King collector, I would LOVE to have one like that in my collection! Thank you for the additional photos and for sharing that beauty.
Caleb (Modified) posted photos of a similar 1917 (with the King Super Police package) in post 20 of this thread:
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