6" 5-screw M&Ps in .22 LR

Bruce et al,
While I'm not an expert on mod 45s or pre 45s, I can tell you from 24 years in the Army, that weapons were often "parkerized" when some metal was shiney. If I remember correctly, the Army purchased it in a spray can which the armorers could spray on the the weapon. Bottomline is the services would refinish weapons themselves and it was not something that required them to return to the depot for.
Massad, great find on 2 rare birds! Don't take them near the Metroplex in Texas or the Bruce magnet will pull them in!
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I hope this helps.
Bill
PS-one was purchased at Tulsa last Nov and was the first I'd seen in person
 
Originally posted by Massad Ayoob:
...So there I was, driving home through the midwest after 10 days of work, and stopped into a gun shop I'd heard a lot about and always wanted to visit....Wandered through, went to one of the used gun counters, saw two fixed-sight early-lookin' Smiths marked "K-22"...dickered a bit...

That is great! I love stories like this!
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Thanks, BD. That's about as rare as it gets, huh?! Wow!
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Congrats, Massad! Good for you!
 
That is wonderful story. Things like that should happen to everyone at least once.

You are welcome, Onomea. They are very rare and I really enjoyed the pics he posted. I would love to have an opportunity see them in person. If I could just get Massad to bring them through the North Texas area...
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bdGreen
 
Originally posted by bdGreen:
If I could just get Massad to bring them through the North Texas area...
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bdGreen
WARNING...WARNING...K22's and quite a few M35's have been known to disappear in that region.
Even a few old boxes. (...the BDGreen Triangle?)

Mossad, thanks for the hammer/sight picture explanation; didn't know they could be made to do that. You seem to have a way with words; ever consider taking up writing? (..here's where I'd normally make up some kind of semi-clever comment about there being too many cunning linguists on this site already, but you seem to be too classy of a guy for such nonsense). Anyway, thanks again for the photos; great to know there are still treasures to be found. -S2
 
That has to be just about the coolest story I've read in a long time. Since they're "just" shooter grade guns ya might as well shoot them!
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I for one would enjoy a picture or two of them in action if your able. Thanks for showing.

Keith
 
Mas,
That is quite a treasure trove you stumbled into!
Well done.

I feel the need to comment on this-
Hammer cocked with the cylinder open......hmmm, I'm gonna have to try that on one of my oldies.
Yes, you can push the thumb latch back, and cock one with the cylinder open.
Do NOT close the cylinder with the hammer cocked!!!!!!!
<span class="ev_code_red">I repeat- Do NOT close the cylinder with the hammer cocked!!!!!!!</span>
You can damage the hand and/or the ratchet!!!!!!
The hand is in its topmost position, and the ratchet pawls will hit the side of the hand.
DROP the hammer BEFORE closing.
 
So there I was, driving home through the midwest after 10 days of work, and stopped into a gun shop I'd heard a lot about and always wanted to visit. (Bought a Frankengun through them years ago over the Internet, traded in by a large midwestern PD, a story in itself...)

OK, I gotta bite on this one... What on earth is a "Frankengun"? Is it assembled from pieces of other guns, has big bolts hanging out from each side of the frame, and doesn't like to be fired?
 
Yup.

What Lee said!!!!

PS: For those who didn't hear from Lee in time, touch bases with Denny Reichard at the Sand Burr Gun Ranch, 574.223.3316 in Rochester, Indiana. Oddly enough, I was talking with Denny about some other stuff today, and discovered that he and his cohort Ray Salzman have come up with a way to re-cut ratchets on old/abused/wornout long action S&Ws to recover them from brutality and bring them back into "time". What with the old parts being so hard to come by and all, Denny's phone number is worth recording somewhere for future use...and Denny does the kind of action jobs that the late, great Andy Cannon used to do for national champions, too, on old AND new S&W revolvers.
 
Whelenshooter:

You are frighteningly (nyuk,nyuk) close to the definition of this particular Frankengun.

Once upon a time, there was a polic department serving a large Midwestern city (which will remain nameless) that had an extraordinarily successful history with K-frame S&W revolvers loaded with 125 grain .357 Magnum SJHP.

Other departments aound them adopted 15- and 16-shot 9mm pistols. The department felt a need to do the same. They adopted TDA (traditional double action) Beretta 92G pistols, decocker only rather than the lever on the slide performing its usual function as both a decocker and a safety lever. This seems to have been done largely because the troopers in that state had adopted this exact pistol.

There came a time when a suspect fought a cop so equipped, got the gun away from him, and began shooting at him. As the story was told to me by people in a position to know, the cop took cover and escaped unscathed. As the perpetrator began his own escape, he shoved the still-cocked Beretta into the front of his waistband, with his finger still on the trigger...and, predictably, created a urological surgeon's nightmare.

Now (brief digression) had it been me in charge of such things, I would have gone to the nearest convent and asked the good Sisters to say a Novena in thanks (and I'm not even Catholic) and then would have begged Beretta to convert the 92Gs to 92Fs, which would would have had manual safeties, so maybe the SOB who shot at my officer wouldn't have been able to fire my officer's gun at him at all.

But, no, the person in charge decided that if the guy who stole the policeman's gun was stupid enough to emasculate himself with it, one of his officers might forget to decock and take his finger off the trigger and "decock" himself, too.

So, the department in question had Beretta convert the 92G pistols to double action only (92D) format, while leaving the slide lever in place. Thus was created the only "92G/D" pistols on earth -- no so marked, but obviously so defined -- with ambidextrous levers on either side of the slide that now performed no function whatsoever. They were sort of like a horse's snaffle bit...you could play with those levers, but they wouldn't do anything at all.

A few hundred of them were modified for the department in question. I have one, bought from the dealership referred to earlier. Hell of it is, the thing was dead accurate and shot perfectly to the sights. It's still in my gun safe, and a picture of that very gun appears in the Gun Digest Book of Beretta. Only a few hundred were converted before the department in question said "to heck with it" and bought Glock .40s for their cops, which are still standard issue there...

Ergo, that particular "Frankengun."
 
GREAT story about the "Frankengun"!

Thanks!

PS: Nice .22s too; I wish I'd seen them first, but I don't get out of Alaska too often. This work stuff seems to always get in the way... by the way, work is highly overrated. The only reason I do it is because I like to eat, live indoors, and buy toys (like Smith & Wesson revolvers).
 
Mas;

To have stumbled upon one is remarkable, to have found two is simply beyond comprehension. I'll send you a few bucks if you'll buy a couple of lottery tickets for me. Well done!
 
A fantastic find, stories like this is what collecting is all about for me. Finding the gems after pounding the Rocks.

thanks for sharing

Dan
 
Good to know, sir!

Anybody have Roy's address on hand, and the current cost of a letter?
 
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