Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961
o

Notices

S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 All 5-Screw & Vintage 4-Screw SWING-OUT Cylinder REVOLVERS, and the 35 Autos and 32 Autos


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-15-2023, 01:11 PM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.

Just bought this off GB. Not sure whether I want to use it as a beater or maybe get it somewhat restored. I'm trying to figure out what it is first. Looks like a Third Model chopped to a 3.5" barrel length? Anyone have any idea?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg pix773999210.jpg (190.0 KB, 1155 views)
File Type: jpg pix348995372.jpg (45.5 KB, 773 views)
File Type: jpg pix170938133.jpg (147.7 KB, 729 views)
File Type: jpg pix107123986.jpg (105.7 KB, 640 views)
File Type: jpg pix028834846.jpg (196.5 KB, 568 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-15-2023, 01:26 PM
Goony's Avatar
Goony Goony is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,874
Likes: 460
Liked 1,883 Times in 480 Posts
Default

An at least approximate serial number?

I don't think "restoring" it is going to get you anywhere. It is what it is at this point, with a history of having been decently altered to suit somebody's individual taste and/or need. I doubt it was originally nickeled. I wonder if the grips are modern Thai repros.
__________________
SWCA #590
"Colligo ergo sum"
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-15-2023, 01:31 PM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Here's the original listing.

Just a moment...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-15-2023, 01:33 PM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goony View Post
An at least approximate serial number?

I don't think "restoring" it is going to get you anywhere. It is what it is at this point, with a history of having been decently altered to suit somebody's individual taste and/or need. I doubt it was originally nickeled. I wonder if the grips are modern Thai repros.
Great point. What I meant by restored was really about getting the factory markings re-cut so they are centered.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #5  
Old 05-15-2023, 01:35 PM
quinn's Avatar
quinn quinn is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 3,465
Likes: 10,863
Liked 11,971 Times in 1,897 Posts
Default

South, I think it is exactly as you said in your original post. I like it as it is and it could have followed me home, too. I'd leave it exactly as it is. Goony was right IMHO.
__________________
Randy
Provenance nerd
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-15-2023, 01:35 PM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Here's a pic of the serial number.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg pix146741878.jpg (89.2 KB, 299 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 05-15-2023, 01:37 PM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by quinn View Post
South, I think it is exactly as you said in your original post. I like it as it is and it could have followed me home, too. I'd leave it exactly as it is. Goony was right IMHO.
Yeah it has some character to it.

I sway between leaving it as is or doing something kinda crazy with it like making into something like this.

Engraved Smith & Wesson 38/44 Heavy Duty Hand Ejector Revolver
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #8  
Old 05-15-2023, 02:20 PM
Truckman's Avatar
Truckman Truckman is offline
US Veteran
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Conroe Texas...
Posts: 3,744
Likes: 0
Liked 8,621 Times in 2,435 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthNarc View Post
Yeah it has some character to it.
Maybe it's the lighting, but the finish looks like chrome...It doesn't have the yellowish tint of nickel...I have a .38-44 HD just like it in my EDC rotation...I'd like to add a .44 Special to round it out a bit......Ben
__________________
Cogito, ergo BOOM!...
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #9  
Old 05-15-2023, 02:40 PM
gmborkovic gmborkovic is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: VA & SoFL
Posts: 8,631
Likes: 465
Liked 5,687 Times in 3,181 Posts
Default

Mr. SouthNarc, curious. Who can re-cut factory markings and center?
__________________
Mike 2796
SoFo Bunch member
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-15-2023, 02:47 PM
Kansasgunner Kansasgunner is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,459
Likes: 13,853
Liked 6,318 Times in 955 Posts
Default

Not odd looking at all to me! Very cool old .44 that could tell some stories.
__________________
Tim
SWCA #2697
Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Like Post:
  #11  
Old 05-15-2023, 02:58 PM
austintexas austintexas is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 1,316
Likes: 122
Liked 1,591 Times in 625 Posts
Default mixmaster

Since the barrel and cylinder are not original to the revolver, it may have started out as a heavy duty, etc. Some research on what it was when it started out as should be in order. I wouldn't fool with it, Just shoot and enjoy it. To restore the markings would cost half again what you paid for it. (remove plating, weld up markings, buff and recut markings and replate=$$$$$)
SWCA 892

I must be getting old or my medication is getting to me. I thought there were more pictures in the post that showed the barrel and cylinder with a different serial number than the butt. I guess I'm overdue a trip to the eye doctor.
SWCA 892

Last edited by austintexas; 05-16-2023 at 12:38 PM. Reason: update
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #12  
Old 05-15-2023, 02:59 PM
Retired W4's Avatar
Retired W4 Retired W4 is offline
US Veteran
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Atlanta area
Posts: 8,592
Likes: 15,190
Liked 18,406 Times in 4,188 Posts
Default

Never heard of Ingfield, Mass, and I was born in Boston.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-15-2023, 03:13 PM
ralph7's Avatar
ralph7 ralph7 is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 4,353
Likes: 9,186
Liked 6,387 Times in 2,214 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired W4 View Post
Never heard of Ingfield, Mass, and I was born in Boston.
Just down the road from ockbridge.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-15-2023, 03:35 PM
Inland7-45 Inland7-45 is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 488
Likes: 488
Liked 644 Times in 288 Posts
Default .44 HD

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthNarc View Post
Just bought this off GB. Not sure whether I want to use it as a beater or maybe get it somewhat restored. I'm trying to figure out what it is first. Looks like a Third Model chopped to a 3.5" barrel length? Anyone have any idea?
I hate to see someone do this to a gun. Especially one that was not made in great numbers and has become very collectable. But what is done is done and it is still a .44 Special and it should make a good shooter.

Despite the refinish I would,nt mind having this gun myself. I enjoy reloading the .44 Special. But I end up shooting them from a 6.5” Model 29 and a Ruger Super Blackhawk.

It would be nice to have a short N frame like this for shooting the milder stuff. Lyman’s Cast Bullet Handbook has got some great data for using the 245 gr SWC or some lighter bullets either 205 or 210 gr.

If it were mine I would look for a set of older magnas (they would,nt have to be diamond or high condition ) and a BK grip adapter.

Good Luck

Last edited by Inland7-45; 05-15-2023 at 07:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #15  
Old 05-15-2023, 03:41 PM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gmborkovic View Post
Mr. SouthNarc, curious. Who can re-cut factory markings and center?
Ford's said they could.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #16  
Old 05-15-2023, 03:56 PM
BAM-BAM BAM-BAM is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: A Burb of the Burgh
Posts: 14,704
Likes: 1,561
Liked 19,765 Times in 8,741 Posts
Default

Sometimes you have to build your own to get what you want! cutting the barrel could have been done decades ago... the nickel decades later!

I round butted both a 4" 686 and 617 in the 1980s to get the guns I wanted!
Some guns you collect ..... some you shoot/carry.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-15-2023, 04:16 PM
RobertJ.'s Avatar
RobertJ. RobertJ. is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seaside, Oregon
Posts: 6,295
Likes: 24,868
Liked 12,499 Times in 3,760 Posts
Default

That's a great-looking gun and I wouldn't do a thing to it!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-15-2023, 04:28 PM
rct269 rct269 is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Pikeville, Tennessee
Posts: 5,918
Likes: 872
Liked 9,623 Times in 3,550 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthNarc View Post
Ford's said they could.
You beat me to it!

I was going to tell you Fords, and pretty much any other refinishing folks have contact with engravers who will re-cut lettering. A note of caution: They can usually be found in the Yellow Pages under the heading of: THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, BRING MONEY!!

Ralph Tremaine

Last edited by rct269; 05-15-2023 at 04:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
  #19  
Old 05-15-2023, 04:31 PM
Wiregrassguy's Avatar
Wiregrassguy Wiregrassguy is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: AL Wiregrass
Posts: 7,176
Likes: 34,139
Liked 10,635 Times in 3,634 Posts
Default

Whoever did the chop and plate did a really nice job...except for the hammer and trigger. Is there a "B" in front of the serial inside the extractor shroud? I think I would replace the hammer and trigger with some original case colored ones...or remove the nickel/chrome and have them re-done. The problem with aftermarket case colors is they rarely get them to look like factory. As far as recutting the stampings, APWCogan can do it. They have a laser cutter but they'll never get the lazy ampersand right. It would be better to just leave it alone. I'm with Randy on this.
__________________
Guy
SWHF #474 SWCA LM#2629
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #20  
Old 05-15-2023, 05:34 PM
erikpolcrack erikpolcrack is offline
US Veteran
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Sullivan County PA
Posts: 469
Likes: 221
Liked 450 Times in 226 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by austintexas View Post
Since the barrel and cylinder are not original to the revolver, it may have started out as a heavy duty, etc. Some research on what it was when it started out as should be in order. I wouldn't fool with it, Just shoot and enjoy it. To restore the markings would cost half again what you paid for it. (remove plating, weld up markings, buff and recut markings and replate=$$$$$)
SWCA 892
Why do you say the barrel and cylinder are not original? They have the same serial number. That's shown in the GB listing. Do the serial numbers appear to be faked?
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #21  
Old 05-15-2023, 07:12 PM
rct269 rct269 is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Pikeville, Tennessee
Posts: 5,918
Likes: 872
Liked 9,623 Times in 3,550 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by erikpolcrack View Post
Why do you say the barrel and cylinder are not original? They have the same serial number. That's shown in the GB listing. Do the serial numbers appear to be faked?
They say the items are not original simply because they've been messed with---rather severely at that.

Your audience here is comprised, in part, of lunatic fringe collectors; many of whom fell ill at the mere sight of your new toy, and wonder why in the world would anybody spend good money on a piece of garbage like that. Another segment of your audience is comprised of what I'll call project fans who think it's the neatest thing since sliced bread and would love to have one just like it. The remainder write it all off, with or without rolling their eyes, by noting there are different strokes for different folks.

It is the way of the world!

Ralph Tremaine
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05-15-2023, 07:58 PM
SVT28 SVT28 is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,089
Likes: 2,830
Liked 5,180 Times in 716 Posts
Default

$1200 with tax, shipping and transfer for a converted/cut possibly refinished N frame. I don’t negatively comment often but with how soft the revolver market has been lately on gunbroker, I think I would’ve found something else that suits my fancy and is more original.

Like this Ashland Model 60 Target Just a moment...

Or this 16-4 32 H&R with combats Just a moment...

Hope you enjoy your new purchase and are satisfied. I certainly wouldn’t put a penny more into it other a touch of mothers mag polish and an old t shirt.

SVT28
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 05-15-2023, 08:19 PM
luvsmiths luvsmiths is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 932
Likes: 1,933
Liked 1,681 Times in 599 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rct269 View Post
You beat me to it!

I was going to tell you Fords, and pretty much any other refinishing folks have contact with engravers who will re-cut lettering. A note of caution: They can usually be found in the Yellow Pages under the heading of: THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, BRING MONEY!!

Ralph Tremaine
I looked that up in the yellow pages, Ralph, and all that came up was women.

Last edited by luvsmiths; 05-15-2023 at 08:24 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #24  
Old 05-15-2023, 08:23 PM
luvsmiths luvsmiths is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 932
Likes: 1,933
Liked 1,681 Times in 599 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rct269 View Post

Your audience here is comprised, in part, of lunatic fringe collectors; many of whom fell ill at the mere sight of your new toy, and wonder why in the world would anybody spend good money on a piece of garbage like that.

Ralph Tremaine
LOL---- next time tell us how you REALLY feel, Ralph!
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 05-15-2023, 08:25 PM
Truckman's Avatar
Truckman Truckman is offline
US Veteran
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Conroe Texas...
Posts: 3,744
Likes: 0
Liked 8,621 Times in 2,435 Posts
Default

Hey Ralph, some of us lunatics got sensitive feelin's ya know......Ben
__________________
Cogito, ergo BOOM!...
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #26  
Old 05-15-2023, 08:25 PM
LostintheOzone's Avatar
LostintheOzone LostintheOzone is offline
US Veteran
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: WA.
Posts: 4,428
Likes: 4,484
Liked 4,425 Times in 2,176 Posts
Default

Looks like a 2nd model with a chopped barrel to me. SN falls around 1930.

Bore looks good so probably a great shooter. Price? Who knows? It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

My feeling is an original 2nd model in that condition would be 50% more.
__________________
That's just somebody talkin.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 05-15-2023, 08:42 PM
Doug M.'s Avatar
Doug M. Doug M. is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Washington State
Posts: 7,388
Likes: 14,388
Liked 9,160 Times in 3,662 Posts
Default

The value to someone who carried for serious purpose likely exceeded the cost of the modifications. I will bet a LOT of money that the person who initially made those changes never cared or though of collector value, original condition, etc. If I had it, I would leave it alone, put some modest 240-ish grain SWC loads in it, and call it good. I'm not saying it is my cup of tea, or that it would be a good fit for me ... just that it is what it is, and has value as such.
__________________
NHI, 10-8.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #28  
Old 05-15-2023, 08:55 PM
Flygas's Avatar
Flygas Flygas is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: SW Missouri
Posts: 298
Likes: 400
Liked 929 Times in 170 Posts
Default

Not 2nd. Model, it’s a 3rd. Model.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LostintheOzone View Post
Looks like a 2nd model with a chopped barrel to me. SN falls around 1930.

Bore looks good so probably a great shooter. Price? Who knows? It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

My feeling is an original 2nd model in that condition would be 50% more.
__________________
SWHF #691
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #29  
Old 05-15-2023, 09:00 PM
StrawHat's Avatar
StrawHat StrawHat is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 5,883
Likes: 8,975
Liked 13,061 Times in 3,902 Posts
Default

Despite a couple of negative endorsements, you purchased something you wanted (I hope).

Inland7-45 posted, “…I hate to see someone do this to a gun. Especially one that was not made in great numbers and has become very collectable. But what is done is done and it is still a .44 Special and it should make a good shooter…”.

If this had been done in the last year or so, I would agree with him. But the fact is, with no documentation, we have no idea when it was done. It may have been done in the early 30s and carried by a LEO, of some sort. Or in the same time frame but carried by one of Dillinger’s contemporaries.

rct238, defines three groups and how they look at it. I fall into the first two. I collect S&W ACP revolvers and have a few. I also have a few “altered” ACP revolvers. Some were done years ago long before anyone considered the Models to be collectible. Some have been converted by me to the chagrin of a few.

If that 3rd Model 44 S&W Special revolver in the OP were mine, I would get some smooth elk Magna stocks, a Tyler grip adapter, and a Sunday Scabbard and use it daily!



Kevin
__________________
Unshared knowledge is wasted.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 05-15-2023, 09:20 PM
Baltimoreed11754's Avatar
Baltimoreed11754 Baltimoreed11754 is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 1,156
Likes: 630
Liked 2,024 Times in 706 Posts
Default

I like it. Like the half moon front sight, N frame, shortened barrel, the old school grips, nice nickel but the caliber is off— .01 too low. I wouldn’t do anything, just shoot it. Mine is similar but different.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_5012.jpg (40.5 KB, 116 views)

Last edited by Baltimoreed11754; 05-15-2023 at 09:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 05-15-2023, 09:38 PM
K Frame Keith's Avatar
K Frame Keith K Frame Keith is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Pike County PA
Posts: 1,032
Likes: 1,712
Liked 2,003 Times in 636 Posts
Default

I like it the way it is. Ditto on some elk grips.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #32  
Old 05-15-2023, 10:59 PM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by StrawHat View Post
Despite a couple of negative endorsements, you purchased something you wanted (I hope).

Thanks I appreciate that. It was something I wanted and I can certainly afford it.

On the "negative" endorsement it's been my experience that pretentious, condescending, or passive aggressive comments made on the internet would never be made the same way in person. I've been on internet forums now since 2000 and travel 40+ weeks a year meeting ALOT of folks from them. I've still yet to have met a guy in person that comported himself the same way when I confronted them with their on-line negative behavior. Just doesn't happen.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 05-16-2023, 07:28 AM
SAFireman's Avatar
SAFireman SAFireman is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Home of the Alamo
Posts: 5,778
Likes: 16,313
Liked 15,318 Times in 3,055 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthNarc View Post
Thanks I appreciate that. It was something I wanted and I can certainly afford it.

On the "negative" endorsement it's been my experience that pretentious, condescending, or passive aggressive comments made on the internet would never be made the same way in person. I've been on internet forums now since 2000 and travel 40+ weeks a year meeting ALOT of folks from them. I've still yet to have met a guy in person that comported himself the same way when I confronted them with their on-line negative behavior. Just doesn't happen.
Chop it, shoot it, love it, restore it......YOUR gun, YOUR dineros.

Here are a few that have drawn the same criticisms over the years, and I love each and every one

Top - Registered Magnum in 44 Special by David Keith
Middle - 41 Magnum - SAFireman special
Bottom - 44 Special by David Keith

Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.-44_rm1-jpg

Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.-dsc_0101-jpg

Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.-keith44spl-jpg
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 44_RM1.jpg (134.6 KB, 1183 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_0101.jpg (78.2 KB, 1184 views)
File Type: jpg Keith44spl.jpg (52.7 KB, 1177 views)
__________________
On the Oak Savannah
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 05-16-2023, 07:51 AM
CZU CZU is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NE Texas
Posts: 968
Likes: 2,024
Liked 4,587 Times in 643 Posts
Default

OP-please show us the other side, I think some of us would like to see how the side plate was done.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #35  
Old 05-16-2023, 08:01 AM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAFireman View Post
Chop it, shoot it, love it, restore it......YOUR gun, YOUR dineros.

Here are a few that have drawn the same criticisms over the years, and I love each and every one

Top - Registered Magnum in 44 Special by David Keith
Middle - 41 Magnum - SAFireman special
Bottom - 44 Special by David Keith

Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.-44_rm1-jpg

Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.-dsc_0101-jpg

Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.-keith44spl-jpg


SAFireman's 41 Magnum is truly a stunning pistol.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #36  
Old 05-16-2023, 08:07 AM
47knuckle 47knuckle is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hartsville, SC
Posts: 370
Likes: 209
Liked 1,241 Times in 192 Posts
Default

I like it, but then again I rarely see a 44 spec. that I don’t like. A very neat job of removing the forged sight from the discarded part of the barrel and reattaching it. I hope you are a reloader as you may have to use 280-290 grain cast slugs to get it to shoot to correct elevation.

I found it appropriate that it was sold by “oddduckgunshop”
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #37  
Old 05-16-2023, 08:11 AM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CZU View Post
OP-please show us the other side, I think some of us would like to see how the side plate was done.
Here you go.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg pix768749170.jpg (193.7 KB, 193 views)
File Type: jpg pix363020155.jpg (176.5 KB, 158 views)
File Type: jpg pix089584426.jpg (190.6 KB, 161 views)
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-16-2023, 08:47 AM
Hawg Rider Hawg Rider is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 1,800
Likes: 4,219
Liked 3,970 Times in 1,107 Posts
Default

Except for replacing the stocks, I would leave that 3rd Model just as it is. The stocks are newer, but the rest of the parts appear all original...with the barrel shortened. It's actually a handsome piece, and is probably a great shooter. I bought my .44HE 3rd Model (W&K, ca. 1927, s/n 29803) a few years ago...and it too had been modified "back in the day". A previous owner removed the half moon sight, added a barrel rib and Baughman-style front sight, and re-nickeled the revolver. I got a pretty good deal on it (including a Mr. Jinx letter and mahogany presentation case), so I decided it would become my BBQ gun. I had Pat Grashorn make me some elk antler stocks (which I later patina'd), and Bob Mernickle fabbed the carved cross-draw holster. Carry it, and enjoy it!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg P1010036.jpg (151.7 KB, 95 views)
File Type: jpg P1000993.jpg (119.1 KB, 106 views)
File Type: jpg P1000992.jpg (133.5 KB, 96 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_3104.jpg (191.2 KB, 98 views)

Last edited by Hawg Rider; 05-16-2023 at 08:49 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 05-16-2023, 08:51 AM
Retired W4's Avatar
Retired W4 Retired W4 is offline
US Veteran
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Atlanta area
Posts: 8,592
Likes: 15,190
Liked 18,406 Times in 4,188 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthNarc View Post
Thanks I appreciate that. It was something I wanted and I can certainly afford it.

On the "negative" endorsement it's been my experience that pretentious, condescending, or passive aggressive comments made on the internet would never be made the same way in person. I've been on internet forums now since 2000 and travel 40+ weeks a year meeting ALOT of folks from them. I've still yet to have met a guy in person that comported himself the same way when I confronted them with their on-line negative behavior. Just doesn't happen.
I would have said the same thing (post # 12) in person. I actually made that comment as a joke. I know by the responses that several people took it as just that. I'm just a simple man with a complicated past, and I call'm like I see'm, without being condescending. I also try not to take everything here so seriously. By the by, I really like the old 44 Specials, of all stripes, including yours.

As for internet longevity, I helped Al Gore invent it. A "roll eyes" emoji would be appropriate here.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #40  
Old 05-16-2023, 08:59 AM
Benton Quest Benton Quest is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 362
Likes: 291
Liked 593 Times in 213 Posts
Default

That's a working gun that has done things. I'd leave it as is...history you can hold in your hand.

Sent from my SM-G990U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #41  
Old 05-16-2023, 09:04 AM
Jim Watson Jim Watson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Florence, Alabama, USA
Posts: 2,319
Likes: 40
Liked 1,365 Times in 757 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthNarc View Post
Ford's said they could.
Did they say what they would charge? A lot, I bet.
Lessee, now $345 for deluxe brush blue after $25 nickel strip, less than I thought. $90 each to case color the hammer and trigger. $550

Popping off the front sight, smoothing the top of the barrel, marking for that barrel length, and replacing the front sight will be a good bit more.

I think I'd shoot it as is, some paint on the shiny sights.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #42  
Old 05-16-2023, 09:12 AM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawg Rider View Post
Except for replacing the stocks, I would leave that 3rd Model just as it is. The stocks are newer, but the rest of the parts appear all original...with the barrel shortened. It's actually a handsome piece, and is probably a great shooter. I bought my .44HE 3rd Model (W&K, ca. 1927, s/n 29803) a few years ago...and it too had been modified "back in the day". A previous owner removed the half moon sight, added a barrel rib and Baughman-style front sight, and re-nickeled the revolver. I got a pretty good deal on it (including a Mr. Jinx letter and mahogany presentation case), so I decided it would become my BBQ gun. I had Pat Grashorn make me some elk antler stocks (which I later patina'd), and Bob Mernickle fabbed the carved cross-draw holster. Carry it, and enjoy it!

Man that’s a good looking gun!
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 05-16-2023, 09:14 AM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired W4 View Post
I would have said the same thing (post # 12) in person. I actually made that comment as a joke. I know by the responses that several people took it as just that. I'm just a simple man with a complicated past, and I call'm like I see'm, without being condescending. I also try not to take everything here so seriously. By the by, I really like the old 44 Specials, of all stripes, including yours.

As for internet longevity, I helped Al Gore invent it. A "roll eyes" emoji would be appropriate here.

I didn’t take what you said as negative. Actually I thought it was pretty clever.

And I wasn’t really talking about a particular post, just the tendency towards real life behavior being quite different from internet behavior among many.👍🏽
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #44  
Old 05-16-2023, 09:23 AM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

3.5” N frames just fascinate me. My grandfather as a Mississippi Highway Patrolman in 1954 was in a shooting and killed a guy with a 3.5” Model 27 that unfortunately he got rid of when I was a teen. But I distinctly remember being in single digits and seeing that menacing old revolver on his dresser and thinking how….business like the gun looked, and that was even before I knew about that shooting he had.
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #45  
Old 05-16-2023, 09:30 AM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

On that note this photo of a modified Heavy Duty from the Amoskeag auction site has always intrigued me.

I love the idea of leaving this old gun as is and just shooting the **** out of it. The other side of me wonders if I could do that same kind of King’s sight homage with the same drift adjustable rear and a gold bead. Wouldn’t engrave it but I do like the sights on the one in the pic.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 07985B50-246F-4843-AA91-2CB17D15D8C9.jpg (46.6 KB, 110 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Like Post:
  #46  
Old 05-16-2023, 09:36 AM
Retired W4's Avatar
Retired W4 Retired W4 is offline
US Veteran
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Atlanta area
Posts: 8,592
Likes: 15,190
Liked 18,406 Times in 4,188 Posts
Default

OK. Now would be the time to get that puppy to the range to see POI with those fixed sights. I think that will be the real test for the old war horse.

Best of luck...and sent a range report.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
  #47  
Old 05-16-2023, 09:39 AM
SouthNarc SouthNarc is online now
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Oct 2022
Posts: 150
Likes: 193
Liked 1,246 Times in 114 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired W4 View Post
OK. Now would be the time to get that puppy to the range to see POI with those fixed sights. I think that will be the real test for the old war horse.

Best of luck...and sent a range report.
Will do!👍🏽🙂
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #48  
Old 05-16-2023, 11:44 AM
Stephanie B's Avatar
Stephanie B Stephanie B is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: SE CT
Posts: 825
Likes: 310
Liked 1,192 Times in 362 Posts
Default

If SouthNarc hadn't bought it, I might have considered it. The early 2000s .44s are going for that, and more. It would be really fun to take to an ICORE match.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
  #49  
Old 05-16-2023, 02:41 PM
OLDSTER's Avatar
OLDSTER OLDSTER is offline
Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 10,141
Likes: 14,138
Liked 12,700 Times in 3,476 Posts
Default

I really like that neat revolver. Leave it as is.
__________________
John
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #50  
Old 05-16-2023, 05:10 PM
raljr1 raljr1 is offline
SWCA Member
Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special. Just bought an odd looking 44 Special.  
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Northeast FL
Posts: 5,694
Likes: 7,335
Liked 14,948 Times in 3,559 Posts
Default

It certainly is not a beater. Modified, yes, useful, yes, handy, yes.. take that baby dancing...she's pretty

Robert
__________________
Robert
SWCA #2906, SWHF #760
Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Like Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How I Bought an Old .44 Special McShooty S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 15 02-22-2023 04:07 PM
Manufactured 1955 or 1956? (38 Special M&P bought 1959) Duderino S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 23 06-10-2021 09:54 AM
** please close thread bought a new Night Carry Cobra**Colt detective special jimbo c WANTED to Buy 0 01-09-2020 07:18 PM
Just bought a 686-3 Security Special 3 inch byf42 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 6 12-13-2012 10:58 AM
I bought my first .44 Special! (NOW WITH PICS!!) Patrick L S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 22 01-30-2009 02:31 AM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:28 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)