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This came to me today at a local show.
First or second year (41xx) Smith 44 special Triple lock.
7.5 inch barrel with MOP steer head stocks.

Bore, lock-up timing all good.
Your estimate of a ...
Buy price ?
Sell Price ?

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Wow, a Triplelock in 7 1/2" barrel even though a 10% finish to only a patina gun that is a breath taking thing. The steer head ruby eye MOP gips is only icing on top of the cake.
The lack of adjustable sights even though a long barrel version may even enhance value as fewer may have been made with fixed sights. No idea of value but quite a find. I and I'm sure many other members here absolutely abhor using the adjective rare or scarce But in this case it may be justified. Well done indeed.
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I have no experience with items in this condition. I can tell you a first year 7 1/2" Target (#3976, shipped February 23, 1909) in very high 90's condition sold about this time last year for $10,000. My knee-jerk guesstimate of the value of this one would be less than a tenth of that one. I can provide a color print of the gun mentioned above to anyone who might wish to post it here---never mind I don't see what the purpose of that would be.

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Thanks Ralph...
That was the general thought of some S&W gun show bud's.
The 7.5 inch barrel is what had me vapor-locked.
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That was the general thought of some S&W gun show bud's.
The 7.5 inch barrel is what had me vapor-locked.
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Jinks has opined that somewhere between 250 and 500 7 1/2" targets were produced. On the one hand, that sounds like "I don't know." On the other hand, all he has to go on are the factory records---which can be sparse; because all they cared about at the time was how many "units" of any TL/TLT's had been sold, and if they'd received payment for them.

An interesting tid-bit from the time: Both fixed sight and targets sold for the same amount---$21. Kind of makes you wish you'd been there then---with the money you have now.

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That IS a rare gun.
I do not see any chips on those grips. If not, on their own, I would not sell them for less than $500. If they look really good cleaned up, they might bring 750. Walmart ain't got any.
So, very worn but sound, with those grips, I would ask $2500-3000. It would be a great hole filler till a better one came along, which might not happen this lifetime.
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I guess I would try and buy it at the least the seller would accept. Lee's number sounds good for a sell price. Maybe ask 3K then accept a little less.
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Jinks has opined that somewhere between 250 and 500 7 1/2" targets were produced. On the one hand, that sounds like "I don't know." On the other hand, all he has to go on are the factory records---which can be sparse; because all they cared about at the time was how many "units" of any TL/TLT's had been sold, and if they'd received payment for them.

An interesting tid-bit from the time: Both fixed sight and targets sold for the same amount---$21. Kind of makes you wish you'd been there then---with the money you have now.

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Nope, literature from the era demonstrates that the Target Model version sold for $1.50 more, at $22.50 each.
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Nope, literature from the era demonstrates that the Target Model version sold for $1.50 more, at $22.50 each.
Well I was going by Jinks' "History"---I wasn't there.

That said, it's always been a nonsensical thing to me that they'd sell both for the same price. The target clearly cost more to make---the extra machining, and the sights themselves.

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Many thanks Lee.....
The grips are what I really like.

I will see in the am if I own it.
If I score I will list it on our classified.

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The plot thickens-----------------------

I went back to Jinks' History of Smith & Wesson to make sure I'd quoted him correctly. Sure enough, "Any one of these options (caliber options), in fixed or target version, could be ordered from the factory for $21."

Now, as far as the thickening plot goes, he doesn't even mention the 7 1/2" barrel in this book. He notes the 5" and 6 1/2", a "limited quantity" of 4"---and that's all! A 7 1/2" was all I ever had, until I stumbled upon that 6 1/2" King Super Target several years ago----and never gave any thought to how rare the 7 1/2" might be---not paying attention I reckon.

Well, now I am. N&J does note the 7 1/2", but doesn't mention anything besides nuts and bolts technical stuff--which is pretty much what that work is all about anyway. The SCSW (4th) notes the 7 1/2" barrel, and more importantly, also notes, "Barrel lengths other than 6 1/2" will bring a premium; often 50% or more." I didn't take the time to check the three earlier editions, but anything noteworthy would be repeated in the 4th. The values noted go like so: As New In Box $12,000, Exc+ $7500. Exc $5000, VG $2500, Good $1500, and Fair $950. Note these values are circa 2016, and remember that kicker, "Barrel lengths other than 6 1/2" will bring a premium; often 50% or more."

That's about all the news fit to print.

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On 29 July 2022, in the SWCA section of the forum, in the “Questions for Roy Jinks” section of that private section of the forum, I specifically asked Dr Jinks with regards to Triple Lock production, of those produced with a 7 1/2” barrel, what percentage were manufactured as Target Models and what percentage contained fixed sights? He responded on 30 July 2022 that, in his database, 98% of production was the Target Model variation.

This was because I had purchased one such Triple Lock revolver containing a 7 1/2” barrel and fixed sights on 23 July 2022. The cost was $1839.22 and 1/3 cents (such a figure came about when you have 3 revolvers shipped and divide the shipping equally). That was the total cost, including shipping and FFL fees. Photographs of this rare bird are attached to this thread.

It always made no sense to me that the Target Model would cost the same as the standard variation of the Triple Lock revolver. Not too long ago, Lee Jarrett attached a photograph of a pamphlet from the era that specifically stated that a Triple Lock revolver cost $21, but $22.50 if Target sights were desired. Which makes much more sense. Now, if I was into target shooting with a Triple Lock revolver back in the day, I would want a longer barrel, which means that I’m surprised that 98% of the production of Triple Lock revolvers weren’t the Target Model variation.

Lee, if you see this post, can you attach the pamphlet I am referencing to an additional post to this thread?

Lastly, as to valuation of the one the OP has. I don’t know for sure what it would bring, but the price I paid at public auction no less back in 2022 was certainly less than it was really worth. And, the purchase price included a factory letter as well. My revolver shipped to E K Tryon Co in Philadelphia, PA on 07 November 1911.
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That's a really nice Triplelock, even with the missing finish. Could those be W&K steer head stocks? Looks like the right sideplate has been removed a time or two, so no telling what the internals look like. How is it mechanically? Is it a safe shooter? I think that $2500 would be a fair asking price, which includes a premium for the 7-1/2" bbl.

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Don't see any sign that the side plate has been removed although it could have been. I do agree with the price though , $2500 would not be too much with the carved pearl and rare barrel length. I don't think it's worth any more though.
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I do now own it.
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Congratulations.
There is nothing to consider- rare guns can only benefit from a letter.
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Under the heading of this is not the opening gambit of a debate----it's simply paraphrasing S&W's instructions to owners of their revolvers.

Mr. Southgate's observation suggesting the sideplate has not been removed is the exact same as saying the piece has not been properly maintained. I say paraphrasing, this is an EXACT quote: "Occasional oiling is absolutely necessary to keep a revolver in fine working condition and prevent wear----------and this is best achieved by removing the sideplate-----------."

Any and all to whom this comes as a surprise, or contrary to their beliefs should consider themselves woefully ill informed.

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Edited to add: I should likely have added the fact they then go on to say exactly how to do it----AND exactly how NOT to do it.

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I think your consideration is quite warranted. I have a few I need to submit for letters also. I am really glad that you bought that beautiful big iron. As you can already tell, there are several folks with like interst here who would all have loved for that TL to have fallen in our hands. Congratulations, shoot the snot out of her and enjoy it!
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Many Thanks for all the information.
I ordered a S&W letter last night.
Guess we will find out when and where it shipped.
Likely, a hardware store hopefully in Texas.

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[quote=Xfuzz;141934509]Many Thanks for all the information.
I ordered a S&W letter last night.
Guess we will find out when and where it shipped.
Likely, a hardware store hopefully in Texas.

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Please post the letter when it arrives.

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Great gun and one I’d be tickled to own.
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It might be sacrilegious to some, but if I owned it, I would mix up some blue wenol, little 3 N 1 oil , and some oxphoblue and help the finish on it. To me and prob many a yr from now it wouldn't matter to the next owner that would want it.
I believe it would look a lot better for me..
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I have always been told that the 7 1/2" barrels were numbered around a dozen. Also, the majority of them were for close friends and family. May be rumor or not. Please post the letter when you get it! Awesome find.
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I have always been told that the 7 1/2" barrels were numbered around a dozen. Also, the majority of them were for close friends and family. May be rumor or not. Please post the letter when you get it! Awesome find.
Mine shipped to a major retailer, E K Tryon, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
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Congratulations . Twice that would have been an excellent deal. Maybe there's hope for me yet !
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Mrcvs....
Thinking the same..

If shipped in 1910 or 1911 I suspect it went to where
folks lived.
Be surprised if it shipped West of the Mississippi.
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Mrcvs....
Thinking the same..

If shipped in 1910 or 1911 I suspect it went to where
folks lived.
Be surprised if it shipped West of the Mississippi.
Well, now! I have TL #15. It shipped to San Francisco, CA on January 25, 1909.

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Received the S&W letter today...
Guess I will start bangin around on the computer
and see if I can come with anything on Mr. Davis.

Post number 28 of this thread may have the right info.

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I have been researching a "C V Davis" from the Massachusetts newspapers from the 1910 era.

This is what I have so far....A mention of a "C V Davis" in regards to being assigned as a Postmaster of "Millers Falls" Massachusetts in 1899...Millers Falls is in the Springfield MA area, so this could be why the no address listed.

I also see a "land judge" being listed as a "CV Davis" during that same timeframe, but I am getting conflicting information on the middle initial.

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A "Mrs. C V Davis" took a trip to the Mediterranean and the Holy Land in 1909 with other local ladies...This was certainly a family who was upper crust with disposable income.

ETA:....Mention of "C V Davis" as "Judge of the Land Court" circa 1911.
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Thanks for the research.

Good news is the gun is original.
Alot of times with guns this old all the shipping information
will come to a long out of business hardware store gun shop etc..
Least this one provided a name.
How it got to Texas we will never know.

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A mention of a "C V Davis" in regards to being assigned as a Postmaster of "Millers Falls" Massachusetts in 1899.
I think you are mistaken.
Davis was appointed postmaster of Bedford, MA, not Millers Falls.
E.M. Ward was appointed to Millers Falls.

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I think you are mistaken.
Davis was appointed postmaster of Bedford, MA, not Millers Falls.
E.M. Ward was appointed to Millers Falls.

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That was to show the date of the newspaper clipping...The small clip I posted gave no point of date reference, so I clipped the top of the page with the date visible.

I saw that name as well and I couldn't decide whether it was before the semicolon or after....However, I think the newspaper made a typo anyway. The USPS actually still has records of their postmasters of some post offices, and the MA records go WAY back. That name is incorrect according to USPS....They say it was Carlos C. Davis, not "V"...See attached pic.
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Strangely enough, those grips must have been a custom grip for several makes and models. Here's an engraved Colt SAA that sold with a pair almost identical:

COLT SAA ANTIQUE W/ CARVED STEER HEAD MOTHER OF PEARL GRIPS - 41 CAL. SHIPPED TO SCHUYLER HARTLEY &GRAHAM N.Y.C. IN 1889
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Strangely enough, those grips must have been a custom grip for several makes and models. Here's an engraved Colt SAA that sold with a pair almost identical:

COLT SAA ANTIQUE W/ CARVED STEER HEAD MOTHER OF PEARL GRIPS - 41 CAL. SHIPPED TO SCHUYLER HARTLEY &GRAHAM N.Y.C. IN 1889
A LOT of revolvers that landed in the Southwest wound up wearing steer head pearl grips with ruby eyes.
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Didn’t Wolf & Klarr offer those grips on their prototype Barbecue guns? That would at least explain the relatively common occurrence of that grip style in Texas.
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