Seems like a quiet day so I figured I'd break the internet........

Hey, did you realize you can have a post with over 6,000 lines? I didn't. But apparently you can! Actually it's 5,964 or so serial numbers but, hey, who's counting?

These are serial numbers for Chiefs Specials/M36's that appear in NYPD records as sales to officers. These only go up to 1961 or so, so they should fit in this category.

Almost all of these guns will show as direct sales from S&W to NYPD. Not shown here is the data I have on who the NYPD sold it to and when; for that, contact me.

If you add these to the SWCA database please credit as : Shipped to NYPD and re-sold to individual officer (for further info contact RM Vivas at [email protected])


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1742
1746
3504
4357
5891
6409
6475
7081
7365
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8203
8206
8211
8257
8352
8558
8700
8735
8763
8796
8834
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8999
9154
9272
9397
9407
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9533
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10000
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10179
10448
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10633
10655
10661
10889
10904
11053
11093
11159
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11284
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11356
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Best,
RM Vivas

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RM Vivas
SWCA#1482L, SWHF#837

Wow.

Thanks Robert. Just scanning through the numbers I know of some of them already, in fact I own at least one: 30502. Dr. Jinks told me it went to NYPD, but oddly enough, it's stamped "514 L.A.P.D." on the back strap.

I'll eventually get them all added into the database. I will use your citation and credit you with the information.

Cheers,

Bob

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Wrangler of stray Chiefs
Bob

Thanks! I appreciate that.

Maybe your guy was a NY cop who headed west and took his off-duty piece with him? 514 LAPD might not be a gun identifier but shield & agency identifier. If you could find who had LA shield #514 that might solve it.

Best,
RM Vivas

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RM Vivas
SWCA#1482L, SWHF#837

Ditto......Ben

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Cogito, ergo BOOM!...

That's only until 1961.

At some point there will be a post with the 1962 onward numbers.

The Post-61 strictly numeric serial numbers would be 5,500 entries.

Lets see if the software can handle a 10,000 line entry when I post the alpha-numeric M36 serial numbers.

If it handles that, maybe I'll do 20,000 C-series M&P's

Best,
RM Vivas

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RM Vivas
SWCA#1482L, SWHF#837

Interestingly, I have Chiefs serial# 33618, which is NOT on the NYPD list but DID ship to New York City in 1953, to Stoeger Arms Co.

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John

Instead of inserting 10,000 lines of numbers in a post, why not put them in a spread sheet and attach it or link to a downloadable file. In addition, if you have the shipping or purchase dates for these serials, folks would appreciate being able to know those.

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Guy
SWHF #474 SWCA LM#2629

I am no where near as technologically savvy as people think, hence the multi-thousand line entries!!

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RM Vivas
SWCA#1482L, SWHF#837

Robert, How about a pea pot full of commas???

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John 3:16
WAR EAGLE!

Would not even need commas. How about a space between the entries?
1570 1742 1746 etc.
A lot less lines and I think easy to read and not any harder to enter.

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David Reynolds

I would not criticize R M Vivas about his message format. He is an invaluable resource who put a lot of time and effort into assembling this list. He did the same for Colt Detective Specials on a Colt forum and found the NYPD officer who owned my Detective Special.

The jackpot in this list of Chiefs Specials would be to find one that was owned by Edward R. Egan, the NYPD detective after whom Popeye Doyle was modeled for the French Connection films.

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Well, I just looked for my Baby Chiefs Special, and it’s officially…
NOT a NYC issued gun! Oh well.

Froggie

I checked mine, not NYPD, but only 14 digits away from the closest to it on the list.

Tell me the year he came on 'da Job and I'll do a manual search.

Also, are you --sure-- he had a Chiefs Special?

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RM Vivas
SWCA#1482L, SWHF#837

I have 3 all after this list. I’d love to be able to check them.

So send me the serial numbers and I’ll run them against what I have!

Best,
RM Vivas

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RM Vivas
SWCA#1482L, SWHF#837