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Got to see this one today sn 571xx
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Very nice! I've only seen one nickel RM in person myself, it's at Tuttle's in Enumclaw, WA. I believe a 5.5". No price tag
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Very nice! I've only seen one nickel RM in person myself, it's at Tuttle's in Enumclaw, WA. I believe a 5.5". No price tag
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This gent would not quote a price either. He says there is another one same configuration that shipped on the same invoice. He wants to try and find that one and sell them as a pair. He told me he turned down $7800 for this one. I think it's worth a good bit more than that. Supposedly only 4 nickel guns in this barrel length, according to his letter.
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Is the front sight that low or is the blade missing?
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Front sight looked normal to me, but I did not pick the gun up. I asked if I could take a photo and maybe could have done a better job.
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I'm sure a real expert will come along, but the RMs with ramp front sights that I've seen, they are a lot lower than in postwar .357s. I believe the rear sight is smaller/lower than the later guns.
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What barrel length is that one?...I noticed the humpback hammer also... ...Ben
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I remember seeing one like it that absent comrade, crsides (Charlie Sides), scoped out at a Greenville SC gun show about 6-7 years ago. I wasn’t familiar enough with them, but he said it was really rare.
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The one on op’s pic…
Is that a 4” ???
Or 4.5 ???
I can’t tell for sure
I don’t have my notes handy but he’s right
Not a lot of nickel pre war 357 made
Especially if that’s a 4.5 or .25 increments
His strategy is excellent. If a bit lofty.
My 4.5 nickel RM is serial 57264 also shipped as part of a set of 2
Mine also has a humpback hammer
Mine shipped to Sheriff Rex Sweat in Jacksonville FL
I have a letter but from 1985
Been meaning to do a deep research
Interesting…
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Is that a 4” ???
Or 4.5 ???
I can’t tell for sure
I don’t have my notes handy but he’s right
Not a lot of nickel pre war 357 made
Especially if that’s a 4.5 or .25 increments
His strategy is excellent. If a bit lofty.
My 4.5 nickel RM is serial 57264 also shipped as part of a set of 2
Mine also has a humpback hammer
Mine shipped to Sheriff Rex Sweat in Jacksonville FL
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It is a 4-1/2" barrel. You might be holding the one he wants to find. He told me his letter said it shipped with another of the same configuration. I kinda figured his venture was pie in the sky. This dealer happens to be in Jacksonville.
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Wow. Stranger things have happened !
I better get in the ball and get my invoice
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It is a 4-1/2" barrel. You might be holding the one he wants to find. He told me his letter said it shipped with another of the same configuration. I kinda figured his venture was pie in the sky. This dealer happens to be in Jacksonville.
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Update
Our 2 revolvers are indeed a shipped pair. I spoke with the owner and he’s well familiar with Sheriff Rex Sweat and these 2 revolvers. What a small world !
Since neither of us wishes to sell at this point we have agreed to stay in touch and not make a move regarding either gun without first consulting each other
Robert has done his good deed to last all year !
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There were supposedly 144 nickel RM's made------this from Jinks' 1989 article. I say supposedly, I have no reason to doubt it.
As to nickel, 5" with Humpback hammers, 15 of them were shipped to the Indianapolis P.D. I had one of those---completely as new, inside and out---not really as new if you count the 5 little bitty well hidden stars stamped here, there, and yonder---every place it had a place-----------------------frame/cylinder/yoke/barrel/sideplate. Those guns are also listed in Jinks' article----with consecutive registration numbers. Mine was 4862 if I remember correctly.
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That is a wonderful coincidence! I assume that the invoice confirms that one was nickel, and the other was blue ?
I bought two McGivern model 38-44's, the second one about 2 years after the first one. Turned out they were made as a pair, with sequential serial numbers, and shipped one day apart to two mid-western shooters. I wrote a story about them in the S&WCA Journal a couple of years ago, or so. Both men were students of Ed McGivern, and had received letters from McGivern advising them to check out the new McGivern model.
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How in the world would a person even commence trying to find the matching gun listed on the same invoice from eighty-five years ago?
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Official provenance on the way …
Admittedly I probably broke protocol in making my declaration
But the owner of the rm is confirming the rm # by phone.
I have 4269 and he has 4270
My letter states both shipped to Sweat in a single shipment
Ill get pictures of Reg # from both guns posted soon
I’m also embarrassed to say despite owning mine for over a year I am just now preparing to send off for invoice copies. I am doing that now.
I'll update soon as I get everything.
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The front sight on both RM’s is a Baughman Quick Draw on a King Ramp base.
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Posting here appeared to work.
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I forgot to add
Mine is nickel too
Both are
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That is a wonderful coincidence! I assume that the invoice confirms that one was nickel, and the other was blue ?
I bought two McGivern model 38-44's, the second one about 2 years after the first one. Turned out they were made as a pair, with sequential serial numbers, and shipped one day apart to two mid-western shooters. I wrote a story about them in the S&WCA Journal a couple of years ago, or so. Both men were students of Ed McGivern, and had received letters from McGivern advising them to check out the new McGivern model.
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They are both nickel.
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I dare say they wouldn't actually try to find it---but they would have it firmly imbedded in their mind. Then, one day when all the stars were properly aligned, and they stumbled across it---they POUNCED!!!!
And the rest is history!
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Here is a better picture
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Funny, the dealer told me a year ago he was looking for this other gun. Who would have ever believed it would happen like this ..I hope Mike ends up with both of them.
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mchom, what a gun you have! 4 1/2" barrel is pretty rare, nickel is pretty rare with LEO provenance to boot.
Thanks for showing it to us.
If you wound up with both, what a pair that would make for a Symposium display.
Also noticed your letter is signed by Roy, but typed by someone else. I have not seen that before, but maybe I'm just not observant. Wonder who dsg is?
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I sense a quick trip to Tuttles in my near future......it's one of the few places around any more that are old school gun shops.
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David...I agree!!!
I will do my very best to reunite both revolvers under my roof!
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mchom, what a gun you have! 4 1/2" barrel is pretty rare, nickel is extremely rare with LEO provenance to boot.
Thanks for showing it to us.
If you wound up with both, what a pair that would make for a Symposium display.
Also noticed your letter is signed by Roy, but typed by someone else. I have not seen that before, but maybe I'm just not observant. Wonder who dsg is?
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It's been 25-30 years since I've been to Tuttles.....
Didn't know they were still open for business, most of the old time stores in the Puget Sound area have closed over the years....
The trip there is about an hour to an hour & a half from where I'm at these days....
Maybe it's time to take a road trip... ( not to buy a Reg Mag mind you)
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$43 in 1938 is $952 today. A freaking steal.....
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It's been 25-30 years since I've been to Tuttles.....
Didn't know they were still open for business, most of the old time stores in the Puget Sound area have closed over the years....
The trip there is about an hour to an hour & a half from where I'm at these days....
Maybe it's time to take a road trip... ( not to buy a Reg Mag mind you)
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They are definitely in business. Bought an Ultra Compact Kimber there a year or so ago, smoking deal too. At the time he had 8 or so 29-2's, some nickel and all 6 1/2" available. They're probably all gone now....it's always fun to go there though!
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The Nickel RMs are scarce. I like the estimate given above as I had thought the number to be about 500, or about 10% of production. The S&W RM database says only 97 with 4-1/2” barrels were produced.
Mine was shipped to Lakeland Florida of 12/10/37. Five Nickeled revolvers in a shipment of 8. It was issued to a motorcycle officer who later became the Chief of the Department and then United States Marshal for the Southern District of Florida.
He is pictured in a 1940 picture wearing the magnum sporting the pearl grips. I have a pictorial history of the man plus have talked to people the knew him.
Feel lucky to have it.
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The unusual barrel lengths interest me. Always wonder why people ordered them some random length, especially the 1/4 inch increments. I suppose if they let you order it any way you want, some people just want something a little different. Don't know if 4.5" falls in this category, but made me have the thought nonetheless.
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To your point! These RM Barrel lengths one of a kind!
5 ¾ 1
6 ¼ 1
7 ¼ 1
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