Original post 3 1/2 years ago. Change to 1944.

Hello Jeff:

Thanks very much for providing us with the details on your USNCPC revolver. Does it have any post-war markings such as the sometimes seen British proofs?

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Charlie Flick
SWCA 729 HF 215

I also have a S&W 38 spc with USNCPC on backstrap Ser# 757236. Was part of family estate, grips are not original but overall in good shape. Any idea what its worth?

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My dad just gave me one of these as a Christmas gift. #7524xx. It has M.I.-121 stamped on the left side. Was told this is for the Mares Island Naval Station. Any idea if this is correct?

Sounds like a great gift! Could you post a picture of it?

Here you go.

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What a wonderful gift of history.

The facility in question was known in WW2 as the Mare Island Navy Yard. Located in San Francisco Bay at Vallejo it was once one of the most important West coast naval facilities. It's name changed somewhat over the years and the Yard has been closed for quite a while.

I would like to add your revolver to the Victory Model Database. Would you please send me a PM with the complete serial number?

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Charlie Flick
SWCA 729 HF 215

I have the chance to buy one of these pistols with the serial number of 7592xx. What is a fair value to these guns? it has all the paperwork to document it.

It's hard to say since they don't come up for sale very often. I know of one, lettered and what looks to be decent shape, that has been on offer for months at $1495 without any bites. There were only 3000 made, and the SCSW (4th) claims double to triple standard values, so that wouldn't be out of the ballpark.

But as with all such "book values", a gun is worth that amount only if someone is actually willing to pay.

Exactly what paperwork do you have? If possible, post clear pictures of the revolver and the papers.

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Kevin Williams SWCA1649 HF208

Not sure what paper work was available- wish I had some for my USNCPC.

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Well, you can letter it, although it's no secret what the letter will say. Charles Pate devotes about two pages to these in his book.

They shipped to the Washington Navy Yard in ten shipments of 300 from March 14 to May 10, 1941. The letter will tell you which shipment. Your serial is in the correct range, so it is no doubt authentic.

Since the USNCPC never got off the ground, the guns ended up in various places that are probably buried in naval archives somewhere; some even got sent to Britain.

That's about it.

Got a call from my local LGS yesterday with a question on a old S&W. Turned out to be a USNCPC marked Pre-Victory. A guy got that and a 1951 Colt DS from his dad who ran a liquor store in St. Louis and he was looking to consign both and buy something else. I gladly picked up both for his price. The sideplate has likely been replaced as the seam is a bit off and the finish doesn't match. Once I opened it up I realize why it had been changed since there is now the later model safety install. It was also missing the lanyard loop but I had an extra in the parts bin. All numbers match including the stocks. This one shipped in May 1941 (serial 759369).







It goes nicely with LCDR Sovanski's shoulder holster.

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SWCA: 3154
SWHF: 552

There are a number of service branch civilian police agencies. I believe they all fall under an enabling statute authorizing the Department of Defense to establish police agencies. I worked for a short while at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in the 70s. My shoulder patch and badge said Department of Defense Police but our chain of command was through the 2750th Air Police Wing and we were issued ID cards saying Police Officer, Wright Patterson AFB.

I knew others who were civilians but wore the uniform insignia of the Branch of Service during that time. Most were at a location with a lot of civilian employees.

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SWCA 3417 HF 642 NRA-TC

Would the safety modification and side plate replacement be something done in the WW2 era while this pistol was still U.S. government property, or something done later by a police department or civilian owner?

Depending on whether it was done by the government or by a police department/private owner, how much does this negatively affect the value compared to an untouched, factory original, gun?

The sideplate does not appear to have the S stamped near the rear screw hole, as was done on war-time SV-series Victorys as well as on pre- and Victorys retrofitted with the new safety on the official contract. That would make any sideplate replacement a later post-war job, although by whom is impossible to say unless a factory repair date on the frame under the grip panel indicates it might be later commercial factory work.

Prices for these aren‘t stable enough and there aren‘t enough of them changing hands to give an estimate by how much this might affect the value. Any declaration “by x percent” would be worthless. But it would certainly be a bargaining chip to talk the price down if you were trying to buy it