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Cartouche · #1 10-18-2008, 07:50 AM

There seems to be a bit more historical knowledge. It is not a revolver with in the date stated in the forum title. But there seems to be some confusion on the other side. A mod 17-3, 22lr, according to Fjestad, or a Mod 17, that is, the only one in the book. Except for the dart gun. SN#K8128xx, when is the date of mfg. I say in the mid 80's possibly in the 90's. Any help, or correct date? If I am wrong so be it. I will go back and state so. Then I will know for my grey matter.

Cartouche · #2 10-18-2008, 07:50 AM

There seems to be a bit more historical knowledge. It is not a revolver with in the date stated in the forum title. But there seems to be some confusion on the other side. A mod 17-3, 22lr, according to Fjestad, or a Mod 17, that is, the only one in the book. Except for the dart gun. SN#K8128xx, when is the date of mfg. I say in the mid 80's possibly in the 90's. Any help, or correct date? If I am wrong so be it. I will go back and state so. Then I will know for my grey matter.

Dan M · #3 10-18-2008, 08:02 AM

According to 3rd edition Std Catalog of S&W....

around mid 1968

Cartouche · #4 10-18-2008, 08:27 AM

Thank you Dan M. I was confused because the S.P.Fjestad, Blue Book, does not list but 2 mod 17's. My book is one behind the most current but that should not matter. All it list is a Mod 17 K-22 Masterpiece. I quote from book. 22LR cal.blue only,6 shot 4(mfg 1986-93),6(current mfg), or 83/8 (disc.1992) in. barrel. Disc.1993, reintroduced 1996, disc. 1998. I guess there are other Mod 17's that Blue Book does not mention. I don't know. Normally the S.P.Fjestad is pretty reliable.

Dan M · #5 10-18-2008, 08:34 AM

Cartouche

My experience has been when it comes to S&W, the Blue Book is all over the map. I rarely pick up my 3 year old copy. I would recommend you find a copy of the 3rd edition. it is the best reference book I own. period

Dan

Cartouche · #6 10-18-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by Dan M:
Cartouche

My experience has been when it comes to S&W, the Blue Book is all over the map. I rarely pick up my 3 year old copy. I would recommend you find a copy of the 3rd edition. it is the best reference book I own. period

Dan

That seems to be the most accurate advice regarding S&W I have had in awhile. Thanks for your help. Now I gotta find one.

opoefc · #7 10-18-2008, 04:30 PM

I agree with Dan. Any collector that relies on Fjested 's Blue Book for S&W info. is going to be in trouble eventually and always confused until then. It's a loser for the money it cost.

cd228 · #8 10-19-2008, 10:38 AM

Try Amazon or Barnes and Noble. That's where I buy the S&W catalogue. Roy Jinks used to be the author, I don't know who the current author is.

BUFF · #9 10-19-2008, 10:42 AM

The STANDARD CATALOG OF SMITH & WESSON, all three editions, are the work of Richard Nahas and Jim Supica.

Roy Jinks has written a lot, but these books aren't his.

handejector · #10 10-21-2008, 08:48 AM

The Blue Book is LAUGHABLE on the vintage S&W's. Universally too high or too low, and either lacks info or shows disinformation. People are always quoting data from there that amazes me in its incorrectness.
FORGET the thing for S&W's.

Bell Charter Oak Holsters · #11 10-22-2008, 06:14 AM

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Originally posted by handejector:
The Blue Book is LAUGHABLE on the vintage S&W's. Universally too high or too low, and either lacks info or shows disinformation. People are always quoting data from there that amazes me in its incorrectness.
FORGET the thing for S&W's.

AMEN BROTHER!

You might better set your book buyin' money on fire. The Blue Book has never been useful or remotely accurate for my purposes.

#12 10-22-2008, 07:59 AM

Frankly, the only thing the Fjestad Book is any good for is for showing Sellers that their gun isn't worth anywhere near what they thing it might be! I've only got a very small Collection of S&Ws and yet at least more than a half dozen of them aren't even mentioned! They work pretty hard at adding all the new "Toy Makers" such as Hi-Point but even then their prices aren't even close. I don't know how many staff members they have but they certainly don't enough to keep up with actual sales because I'd guess they're all pretty busy correcting mistakes in prior editions - spelling mistake and NOT pricing errors.

Cartouche · #13 10-22-2008, 09:41 AM

Thanks guys. Yea it is something I use for a quick check, and then I go and seek out more info. I have been cautious, for awhile, when quoting info from it. Belive you me I will be buying all 3 editions of the std S&W catalog. I won't be buying the latest edition of the Mostly wrong Blue Book. Thanks for the help.

Dan M · #14 10-22-2008, 12:27 PM

Cartouche,

The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson has been issued 3 times. each time it has been revised and upgraded for additional Information. I dont think it's needed to buy all 3 editions unless you want the Collectability of the books themselves. The 3rd edition is the latest and greatest and all you really need.

Dan

handejector · #15 10-22-2008, 02:31 PM

It really is laughable how useless the Blue Book is, yet I tote one around the country on the odd chance I can look up a Winchester serial number, or get a LITTLE data on some brand my knowledge is light on. Mine is the 25th ed.- what ed. are they on now? Mine probably has 100,000 miles on it.
I have probably only bought 4 or 5 new ones in a 44 year span of gun trading!

Cartouche · #16 10-22-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Dan M:
Cartouche,

The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson has been issued 3 times. each time it has been revised and upgraded for additional Information. I dont think it's needed to buy all 3 editions unless you want the Collectability of the books themselves. The 3rd edition is the latest and greatest and all you really need.

Dan

DanM, M is for, you the man, second good advice I have had from you. That is great that it is updated, or added to. Heck I would have gotten all three, now I only need to get the one. I guess collecting all three would be ok, but no need to now. Thanks Dan tha MAN! Gotta luv this place. Good folks and good sound advice.