The ultimate Model 19/66 Combat Magnum thread

[snw19_357]

That's a nice early Model 66!

Originally Posted by C Broad Arrow

My issue is that I can't trace the serial number to one that makes sense in this thread. At introduction the intial serial numbers are in excess of this one.

They were introduced at K949100, much less than that one.
They didn't start showing up with regularity until the 2K5's.

[C Broad Arrow]

Originally Posted by snw19_357

That's a nice early Model 66!


They were introduced at K949100, much less than that one.
They didn't start showing up with regularity until the 2K5's.

Thanks for the information it is much appreciated. Is it worth $375?

[snw19_357]

Certainly!

[LazyKB]

My first is a six inch I bought, and still have, back in 1977. Santa brought this one last December. He stopped by Lobo Leather and Craig Spegel's house before coming to mine.

[beekeeper]

With respect to data collection, how do you determine the ship date?

[snw19_357]

You can get a History Letter from the the S&W Historian, if it's new enough (1986+) S&W CS could tell you the ship date, and/or there's a section in the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson that you can use for reference.

[Engine49guy]

Originally Posted by C Broad Arrow

Thanks for the information it is much appreciated. Is it worth $375?

Its worth closer to $500 as described with the SS rear site and box.
BUY THAT MODEL 66 ASAP

[steamloco76]

My NIB condition 19-3 Nickel 9K44XXX with cousin 66-2 AFY1XXX. The 66 has TH,TT, RR, WO and a trigger stop from the factory.


The 2 1/2 inch guns a 19-5 in blue with 66-4 in high polish 'pimp' stainless.


19-3 6 inch with factory full target treatment. Shipped in 1971 2K36XXX


Now, all I need is to find a 6 inch 66 like the one I had then sold in my early 20's!

[4-Screw]

Another shot of the 2 Combat Magnums from 1956. New in box Blue Pre-19 and a scarce Nickel Pre-19. The 19 is quite possibly my favorite S&W.





My birth year, 1970, special-ordered two-tone for a NYC Corrections officer...with a W/O, Yellow Ramp, and smooth Dark Rosewood Stocks

[ladder13]

19-3



66-3



66-1



66-3

[beekeeper]

Time to share my "new" 19-2, 3-screw. Leaf screw doesn't have the -3 modification. That is, it is centered directly above the front face of the cylinder, not the gap. The numbers on the inside of the Target grips and the Magnas don't seem to match each other or any number on the gun but they fit.

[snw19_357]

Beautiful 19-2 in a nice solid border of Bangor Punta box!

Are the numbers inside the stocks four digit, 5949 and 5950?

[Diablo982]

Joined the model 19 club this weekend. Finally found a pinned/ recessed 19-4 that met with my budget:

[beekeeper]

Originally Posted by snw19_357

Beautiful 19-2 in a nice solid border of Bangor Punta box!

Are the numbers inside the stocks four digit, 5949 and 5950?

Yup. "KT357" and "5950" stamped in ink on the left half. If I recall correctly, the right half only has the "KT357".

The Magna left half has nothing but the right half has a six digit number relief stamped different than the serial number of the gun.

[beekeeper]

Here's the other side.

[snw19_357]

Originally Posted by beekeeper

Yup. "KT357" and "5950" stamped in ink on the left half. If I recall correctly, the right half only has the "KT357".

The Magna left half has nothing but the right half has a six digit number relief stamped different than the serial number of the gun.

Sounds good.

KT357 is the factory designation for a Model 19 Combat Magnum and the part number for the stocks (until the early/mid '70s) was:
5949 - Stock, Goncalo Alves Target, right
5950 - Stock, Goncalo Alves Target, left

On the magnas, they only numbered the right panel. Square butt Model 19's came with target stocks so that number is the serial number of the revolver they came on, minus the letter.

[ptco911]

My 19-4 4 inch serial number 41K9570. I purchased it at the Heidelberg Rod and Gun Club in Germany in 1976. I have tools for it but no longer have the box.

[mbliss57]

Originally Posted by Diablo982

Joined the model 19 club this weekend. Finally found a pinned/ recessed 19-4 that met with my budget:

I sold one the next day just like that for $650 at a gun show. I bet you got yours for a lot less than that Nice handgun. I sold mine to finance another project. I have more and mine just didn't seem right. It shot OK, not great and I liked by other 19's a lot better. Mike

[lhump1961]

Originally Posted by ladder13

19-3



66-3



66-1



66-3

I have to say I like your taste in revolvers... 19-3,66-1,66-3,66-3 (3") How do you get the bigger pictures?

[JCS&W]

Picked this one up on Tuesday. Finish is in really good condition, but the stocks do have some "dings". Serial number 7K56023.

[rags]

^^^^^ Sweet!!! ^^^^^

[JCS&W]

Thanks -rags-.

[ladder13]

Originally Posted by lhump1961

I have to say I like your taste in revolvers... 19-3,66-1,66-3,66-3 (3") How do you get the bigger pictures?

I use Photobucket, and img code, which posts large pics. Img thumb would post the smaller(thumbnail) pics. Hope that made sense.

[MacA]

Originally Posted by JCS&W

Picked this one up on Tuesday....

So WHO is buying up all the Combat Magnums!!??!!

[mr-mom]

Here are a couple of not-so-great (iPhone) pictures of my Model 66 no-dash, Serial #9K849XX. I recently acquired this, complete with the original numbered box, grips, tool kit & papers. The revolver currently has a target trigger and hammer installed, but came with all of the original parts and a spare set of grips. It has been loved and used, but not abused. Fits my hand beautifully and shoots POA.
DSC_03901.jpg

DSC_0388.jpg

[geoff40]

Nice package Mr. Mom! Are those smooth rosewood targets?

[mr-mom]

Yes they are Geoff.

[Engine49guy]

Originally Posted by MacA

So WHO is buying up all the Combat Magnums!!??!!

Yeah, who is doing that?


Picked up these two old work horses recently and thought I would share them,
Both have a little bit of holster wear but plenty of life still left in them.

Model marked 19 no dash from mid 1958 (according to SCSW) in the K-346,400 range ,


Model 19-2 K-521,358 that shipped in April 1964 that was a former LE gun from ME.


Chris, Have you ever seen one with such a large football cutout before or do you think it was modified?

[The Big Dog]

Perhaps the favorite K frame in my safe, my 66-1 that I carried for several years on the job. It is one of the somewhat rare long barreled guns, measuring a full 6 1/8 from the forcing cone to the muzzle.



The prettiest, a 1971 vintage 19-3. Even after being carried in a holster daily for a couple of years it has very little wear and the deep blue that was the hallmark for so long.

[IMG][/IMG]

My most utilitarian, a 1979 vintage 19-4. I have more rounds through this gun than any other I own. I quit counting at 25,000. Smooth as glass action, this too was an on duty carry for me for several years. The holster wear speaks to how much the quality of bluing at Springfield changed during the 70's.

[Badquaker]

well used P&R 66-1

[ladder13]

Originally Posted by 4-Screw

My birth year, 1970, special-ordered two-tone for a NYC Corrections officer...with a W/O, Yellow Ramp, and smooth Dark Rosewood Stocks

That's beautiful

[dma1]

S/N AYP 24XX.

[geoff40]

dma1, what are those stocks? Besides really nice I mean?

[dma1]

Geoff, they are from the S&W online store. See link.

Product: K/L RD Fancy Walnut Finger Grooved Stock

[snw19_357]

Originally Posted by Engine49guy

Chris, Have you ever seen one with such a large football cutout before or do you think it was modified?

Yes, lots of them. But I think they're modified, like the rest most likely were.
Just adds to it for me.

I'd call the ones on K346... large factory relief. Seen plenty smaller, relieved for the extractor star only.

Love the blued 4" on this page. Nothin better to me than a Combat Magnum with real honest wear on it.

[410bore]

Originally Posted by Engine49guy

Yeah, who is doing that?


Picked up these two old work horses recently and thought I would share them,
Both have a little bit of holster wear but plenty of life still left in them.

Model marked 19 no dash from mid 1958 (according to SCSW) in the K-346,400 range ,


Model 19-2 K-521,358 that shipped in April 1964 that was a former LE gun from ME.


Chris, Have you ever seen one with such a large football cutout before or do you think it was modified?

Was one of those the one you got off gunbroker? I was watching it and checked it after it ended only to see your name as the buyer

[JCS&W]

Just cannot seem to help myself. Picked up this nice M66-1. Nothing really special, just a good solid M66. That is enough for me.

[MacA]

Originally Posted by JCS&W

...That is enough for me...

Yea...Right!! You've already "cornered the market" on Combat Magnums. Why stop now?

Beautiful 66-1!!

[Engine49guy]

Originally Posted by 410bore

Was one of those the one you got off gunbroker? I was watching it and checked it after it ended only to see your name as the buyer

Yep, that was me....two others mentioned they were watching that one as well,
Weird thing is the auction ended at like 1:30 am and I was waiting up at work to bid at the end,
Of course the tones went off like 20 minutes before the auction ended so I just hit the the opening bid offer,
We came back from the call like 30 minutes later and I was surprised to see I had won it....
I truly believe the ones that are meant to be ours come to us .

[snw19_357]

The ‘first’ ones were made for the U.S. Dept of State and have an AN prefix.
The interesting part is that they appear in the ANN8xxx’s, ANP0xxx’s, ANP5xxx’s, and also the ANR8xxx’s.
How many the order was for and/or how many orders were made confuses me because although some of the ANN8xxx range shipped in Dec, 1986; ANP07xx and ANP55xx shipped in Oct, 1986, with ANR8xxx shipping in the beginning of 1987.

Interesting to me is that a lot of S&W’s product codes for different models start at xxxxx2. Maybe they did that to leave room for **Special** orders.
Although I have not come across many of the DSS Model 19-5’s with their boxes, the ones I have seen all had the product code 100701.

[snw19_357]

That’s also the product code the 55 Mag-Na-Port 3” 19-7’s made in 1995 had.

[snw19_357]

Then there’s the matte blue 2.5” Model 19-5’s made for the Connecticut State Police in 1998 that fall in the AYY1xxx range. Even though they are almost identical to the 19-5’s made for DSS, they do have their own product code of 100728.

There are also matte blue DSS guns in the AYY range but they were RB models with a 4” barrel.

[rags]

Oooopss! I forgot my 2 1/2" dash 5, shipped March of 1983.

[rbmcmjr]

that is yummy!

[jjgi5150]

Originally Posted by rbmcmjr

K-Comp

Hi rbmcmjr,

A beautiful K-Comp...I have one just like it and absolutely love it. Very nice knives, too.....


JJ

[jjgi5150]

Originally Posted by snw19_357

The ‘first’ ones were made for the U.S. Dept of State and have an AN prefix.
The interesting part is that they appear in the ANN8xxx’s, ANP0xxx’s, ANP5xxx’s, and also the ANR8xxx’s.
How many the order was for and/or how many orders were made confuses me because although some of the ANN8xxx range shipped in Dec, 1986; ANP07xx and ANP55xx shipped in Oct, 1986, with ANR8xxx shipping in the beginning of 1987.

Interesting to me is that a lot of S&W’s product codes for different models start at xxxxx2. Maybe they did that to leave room for **Special** orders.
Although I have not come across many of the DSS Model 19-5’s with their boxes, the ones I have seen all had the product code 100701.

Hi snw19_357,

Well, right about when I thought I would be done trying to find another revolver, you have to go and show me this beauty! I really have a thing for the matt finished S&W revolvers. I did not know this particular model even existed...but now I guess I will have to be on a quest for one of these. I sold quite a few revolvers over the years which I really regret. But I will not be doing that again. I have only two S&W's now...a beautiful 66-1[-2] 2.5" (which has a great history) and an SDA series K-Comp...but now you have got me started again...the other half is gonna get very upset!!!!!

Thanks for showing these really neat 'specials'....


Take Care,

JJ

[jframe]

Well, I finally got some pics of my 19-3 with my cell phone, so it's time to post. The combat grips actually came on my nickel Model 13-3, but they look ok on this one while the 13 wears some boot style. I'm really wanting some smooth Magna factory stocks with a Tyler t grip, but the stocks and t grip both seem to be hard to come by. I know it's not a Combat Magnum, nor P&R, but I just HAD to post the 13-3 as well.

[JCS&W]

jframe, very nice M19-3. I think it looks great, but I love M19 snubbies.

[mr.jbk79]

Just Got the 4" 19, so I thought I'd get a group picture of the K's together.

[Engine49guy]

Added a few so time for a new group shot,

These 19's start to accumulate,