hello
i expect to buy my second S&W revolver, a 19-4
i would like to know (anyone does - i'm sure) what are differences between a 19-4 and a 19-5 (4" barrel)
thanks

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The main differences, to me, anyway, are that the 19-4s I have and have seen are polished better than the 19-5s, and of course the 19-4s still had pinned barrels and recessed chambers.

Yes, SCS&W says the changes for -5 are
1. Elimination of P&R and
2. Slight shortening of cylinder from a nominal length of 1.67" to 1.62" .

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You're shy a few manners.

The reason for shortening the cylinder was without the recessed charge holes the cylinder could be milled flush with the cartridge heads exposed. I sure it was also to save some material too.

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Dick

That certainly sounds reasonable, Diamondback.

So actually, you could say it went hand in hand with not counter-boring the chambers.

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You're shy a few manners.

Autrement dit, l'année 1982 a apporté nombre de changements dans la plupart des revolvers S&W, et notamment, pour les armes chambrées en calibres magnum, la suppression des drageoirs du barillet. Et un raccourcissement ipso facto de celui-ci de l'ordre de la valeur de l'épaisseur d'un bourrelet, puisque alors les bourrelets n'entrant plus dedans, il fallait bien raccourcir pour éviter que ça coince Ils ont aussi supprimé le goupillage du canon. Pour des raisons économiques principalement (changement de propriétaires de la firme, si je me rappelle bien), le temps de fabrication s'en trouvant réduit assez sensiblement.

Le 19-5 ayant été produit à partir de 1982, tu connais maintenant les différences essentielles avec le 19-4. Pour le bronzage, chaque propriétaire te dira que le sien de l'année d'avant était meilleur, et ça varie d'un exemplaire à un autre, bien souvent, donc c'est moins notable.

Sorry guys, this was my translation for a fellow countryman, who didn't really need it, I'm sure !

IMHO, I think that the main reason for eliminating the cylinder conterbore was a question of saving time of production. As well as the bbl pin. Saving material was only a slight consequence, I guess. If I remember well, S&W owners changed at that time (1981-82), am I wrong ?

Philblack, I believe Lear purchased S&W in 1984. Is that what you are thinking of? The ECO to eliminate recessed chambers on the magnums came along in 1982.

I agree with your thought about saving time. Steel is cheap, compared to machining time.

Yes you're right, it happened a bit sooner. Nevertheless, economy was the reason

Philblack
ton message a quand même dissipé mes incertitudes de traduction des autres messages.
i learn a lot here
thanks to you and also to M29since14, Jack Flash & diamondback68.

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You're welcome