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Smith & Wesson 30-1 .32 long acp
Other than hunting with my Dad as a young boy, I am as far removed from being knowlegable about guns as one could possibly be. However, yesterday I purchased, at a Fort Wayne gun shop, what appears to be the proverbial jewel that is "driven only to church on Sunday."
This S&W model 30-1 is exactly what I was looking for - regarding personal protection, etc. (I am a realtor). This revolver is absolutely perfect, in box with all papers (dating March 1973) and I was told that it was sold by a woman, to the gun shop, the previous day.
While it truly is a fine looking "snubby," my concern is that the serial number on the butt of the frame (H75331) doesn't match the serial number on the yoke (67019 - with a D14 underneath). The frame is also stamped Mod. 30-1.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Bob Witt
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10-24-2010, 01:45 PM
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Serial number is always on the butt. Assembly number in the yoke area. I have a model 15 (ex police) that has the s/n double stamped into the yoke area. Some dealers mistakenly log the assembly number in their books, especially if grips cover the butt.
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10-24-2010, 02:02 PM
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jwk,
Therefore, it sounds as if my S&W model 30-1 is not necessarily a "marriage" of parts. This is a bit of relief as this revolver was exactly what I was looking for and in like-new condition. I didn't want a lot of snap associated with higher caliber pistols therefore this was a great fit for my "concealed" needs - as even at my young age 0f 62, my hands suffer from early stages of arthritis - probably too much time fishing Canadian Waters.
Many thanks - (now to find a quality belt holster).
Bob Witt
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10-24-2010, 04:08 PM
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great little guns. i have a 30 and a 30-1, and i love them.
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Great little guns! I've been looking for another one for a while now. Congratulations!
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10-24-2010, 06:46 PM
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J-frame
I also love to shoot my 30.
When looking for a holster, any that are for "j frame" Smith and Wesson (unless they styte for hammerless only) will work with he model 30.
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10-24-2010, 06:51 PM
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great little revolver. my wife loves to shoot ours. almost no recoil. good training for something bigger. 22 then 32 then 38 then?.
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Welcome to the Forum.
The title of your thread was "Smith & Wesson 30-1 .32 long acp".
Your revolver is chambered for the .32 S&W Long cartridge. It will also fire the .32 S&W cartridge, which is the shorter predecessor to the .32 Long.
This revolver will probably also fire the .32 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) cartridge, which was designed for seni automatic pistols. The .32 ACP is a semi-rimmed cartridge that will headspace in most revolvers chambered for the .32 Long.
I had a M30-1, 3" nickel. It was a fine shooting little gun.
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I had a Model 30 I kept in a holster beside my bed years ago. It was like new. One morning I woke up and noticed I had spilled a couple of drops of coffee on the holster and gun. The coffee must have sat there overnight, because when I picked up the gun in the morning, the blue on two flutes of the cylinder just brushed off, wet in my hand. The coffee reacted with some chemical in the holster leather, and peeled the bluing right off.
What a shame. It was mint. Now it is buried at the back of my least used safe.
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Originally Posted by Muley Gil
Welcome to the Forum.
The title of your thread was "Smith & Wesson 30-1 .32 long acp".
Your revolver is chambered for the .32 S&W Long cartridge. It will also fire the .32 S&W cartridge, which is the shorter predecessor to the .32 Long.
This revolver will probably also fire the .32 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) cartridge, which was designed for seni automatic pistols. The .32 ACP is a semi-rimmed cartridge that will headspace in most revolvers chambered for the .32 Long.
I had a M30-1, 3" nickel. It was a fine shooting little gun.
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DO NOT USE .32 ACP! This is a rimless cartridge, where the .32 S&W is rimmed. You can hurt yourself/ break the gun. The .32 ACP also fits too far in the cylinder. I honestly don't know if the .32 S&W will work where the .32 S&W Long is suppose to.
My wife's grandfather recently passed, and left me a Model 30-1. Great little shooter. I have both .32 S&W and the long, so I guess I will find out if the "non-long" will work, soon.
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Actually, folks can and do shoot the 32. acp since it is a semi-rimmed cartridge. Not the best, but can be done and I am not aware of anyone "hurting their gun" by doing so.
To the OP, "ACP" denotes Automatic Colt Pistol and it is not designed to be used in your revolver, but, as indicated it sometimes is done - just not optimum and really not intended for that use.
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While I have shot some .32 S&Ws in my 30-1, I found that a number of the cases had split. I would stick with the .32 S&W Long that it is chambered for, the other was desighned for the older S&W top brake model, has less power and usually cost more per box if you can find them. MHO
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DO NOT USE .32 ACP! This is a rimless cartridge, where the .32 S&W is rimmed. You can hurt yourself/ break the gun. The .32 ACP also fits too far in the cylinder. I honestly don't know if the .32 S&W will work where the .32 S&W Long is suppose to.
My wife's grandfather recently passed, and left me a Model 30-1. Great little shooter. I have both .32 S&W and the long, so I guess I will find out if the "non-long" will work, soon.
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Please don't offer advice when you don't understand the subject.
While not the best choice the .32 ACP is perfectly acceptable as an alternate cartridge in a .32 S&W Long revolver. There is adequate rim to headspace. .32 ACP is SAAMI rated at only 15,000 PSI, just the same as many standard revolver cartridges. It is not rimless, but rather semi-rimmed.
There is no way the .32 ACP will damage a Model 30 or 31. This is what the OP is talking about. Dimensionally the .32 ACP is very close to .32 S&W except for a somewhat smaller and thinner rim. No one was discussing a top-break revolver.
There are two cartridges that are perfectly acceptable, .32 S&W and .32 S&W Long. There is no such thing as a "non-long", it is .32 S&W, and, except for length, is identical to .32 S&W Long, and is the parent cartridge of the Long.
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