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11-16-2011, 02:52 AM
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Model 19 how to tell if barrel has been replaced or cut down in length
Hi,
I was curious how to tell on a model 19 if the barrel has been replaced or has been cut down to smaller size what to look for? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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11-16-2011, 04:36 AM
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You can get a letter from smith and wesson. I think it will tell you how it came from the factory and who it was shipped to. Someone else correct me if I am wrong on this. I think it costs $35 and I would like this info on all 4 that I own but I guess I am too cheap to pay it. Or at least I have been up to this point.
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11-16-2011, 04:53 AM
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A replacement barrel is going to be very difficult to detect since it would be a factory part-unless you're willing to pay for a factory letter on the weapon and you then discover it left the factory with a different length barrel.
Shortened barrels are easier. The Smith & Wesson and caliber rollmarks are centered on the length of the barrel. If the barrel has been cut, the rollmarks generally won't be centered.
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11-16-2011, 07:43 AM
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I once thought that maybe since the finish didn't match up on one of mine that meant it had the barrel replaced. But then I found they all looked like that. Heck, even the bluing doesn't always quite match up. I guess the alloy of the steel must have some influence on how the bluing wears or ages on the gun. So I fully agree with WR, if the barrel markings are centered then it was either a factory barrel replacement by a competent smith. The only other thing I could think of would be to research the exact model to make sure it is a barrel that would have ben factory on that model and engineering change designation. As in, I don't think they ever put a longer barrel than 3" on the round butt 19's. So if you find a square butt 19 with a 2.5" barrel or a 6" barrel on a square butt 19 then that shouldn't be factory. But then I'm also not sure when they went to all round butt frames. And finally, every time I think I'm comfortable with thinking I have either seen or heard of all the configurations that S&W has offered over the years... Then I see something I had no idea was ever made... They have done some special orders for overseas sales that are pretty rare to see here stateside but are common elsewhere. I wish the Standard Catalog had more pictures in it. Come to think of it, there has been a thread here something to the effect of "The Ultimate Combat Magnum" that was slam full of pics. That might help as well.
Found it:
The ultimate Model 19/66 Combat Magnum thread
Another edit: Post #65 in that thread is just what I'm talking about. Every time I think I'm set on what they made... This guy pops up with a factory lettered four inch round butt 19-3...
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11-16-2011, 08:54 AM
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The letter from S&W runs $50. The other way to figure out if the barrel has been cut to a shorter length is if the caliber markings and the Smith & Wesson roll stamp on the barrel are not centered on the barrel length wise as that would indicate the barrel was cut down. A factory replacement barrel would be very hard to detect as stated above.
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11-16-2011, 10:04 AM
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Don't forget that the "4 inch" model 19's and IIRC 66's made prior to 1974, are not true 4" barrels. They are just a bit shy of 4".
After some pending anti gun legislation was proposed, to eliminate "saturday night specials", S&W made them all true 4" barrels.
Played hell with all the fitted holsters that law enforcement was using at the time. Regards 18DAI.
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11-16-2011, 03:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fyimo
The letter from S&W runs $50. The other way to figure it out is if the caliber markings and the Smith & Wesson roll stamp on the barrel are not centered on the barrel length wise.
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thanks for the info guys, fyimo you are just referring to the barrel length being cut down correct? What if they replaced the barrel ?
Eric
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11-16-2011, 05:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gumpys
thanks for the info guys, fyimo you are just referring to the barrel length being cut down correct? What if they replaced the barrel ?
Eric
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If Smith replaced the barrel,there would probably be a date mark on the butt frame.
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