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I DON"T CARE FOR J FRAMES
I know a bunch of you folks do but for a range gun i like it heavier and easier to hang onto. I have 3 J frames and they are the least favorite of the bunch.
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For general fun shooting I like the K's myself.
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For general fun shooting I like the K's myself.
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Yes, naturally, K-Frames are better shooters, but everything is a compromise in life. The K-Frames don't carry near as well, and with practice, the J-Frame can be shot well. Not as well, but well enough.
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Yes, naturally, K-Frames are better shooters, but everything is a compromise in life. The K-Frames don't carry near as well, and with practice, the J-Frame can be shot well. Not as well, but well enough.
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I recently helped a lady shoot a handgun for the first time. With my M10, all her head and body shots were on target at ~5yd. With my M49, she was pulling (pushing?) shots left (she shot RH), which is normal for new J-frame shooters.
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Hey WL, how do you feel about improved I frames? It's never going to win any matches but load this puppy up with .32 S&W's and it's fun to shoot. Even with .32 S&W Long it's still fun.
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So be it. To each his own. If you don't like them, sell them.
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For range work, you are correct.
Try dropping a snub N-frame in your pocket, or strapping an N-frame to your ankle.
Sooooo, for range work the N-frames are my favorite and for carry the J-frames are unbeatable.
And the K's? Somewhere in the middle, house and holster guns?
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I freakin' hate 'em too.
I buy 'em up so nobody else hasta' worry about havin' them.
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I freakin' hate 'em too.
I buy 'em up so nobody else hasta' worry about havin' them.
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I freakin' hate 'em too.
I buy 'em up so nobody else hasta' worry about havin' them.
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Not worlds of fun to shoot with the OEM stocks.
However, the banana grips like the 3rd from left are much more comfortable for shooting.
Wish I could get some banana grips made for a SB J frame.
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For range work, you are correct.
Try dropping a snub N-frame in your pocket, or strapping an N-frame to your ankle.
Sooooo, for range work the N-frames are my favorite and for carry the J-frames are unbeatable.
And the K's? Somewhere in the middle, house and holster guns?
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That's why I can't figure out what seems to be the short barrel/big gun obsession some folks have.
Someone was bemoaning prices on 2.5" 686s. I guess I'm missing something. An L-frame doesn't strike me as very concealable. That 1.5" of barrel removed from a 4" is expensive in terms of shoot-ability and performance.
Skeeter Skelton used to say the 2.5" M-19 added nothing to conceal-ability vs the 4", because the thickness of a medium-frame revolver was the real challenge .
Did he just wear longer jackets than we do now?
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They were never intended to be "range guns".
They were, and are intended to be carried a lot and fired a little.
I carry one every day as a back up gun. I only shoot 2 or 3 hundred rounds thru it in a years time.
My primary weapon is a 1911 (.45 ACP) that is carried most days. I shoot about 500 rounds per month thru it.
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I know a bunch of you folks do but for a range gun i like it heavier and easier to hang onto. I have 3 J frames and they are the least favorite of the bunch.
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Well WL, I must agree that the J frame does NOT make a very good range gun. That is NOT it's intended purpose, however. What it IS, is arguably THE FINEST CCW revolver ever built. For THAT purpose, it is my favorite.....
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Well WL, I must agree that the J frame does NOT make a very good range gun. That is NOT it's intended purpose, however. What it IS, is arguably THE FINEST CCW revolver ever built. For THAT purpose, it is my favorite.....
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Au contraire, my friend - a model 60-18 with the 5" barrel is indeed an excellent range gun.
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I agree that others are more fun, but if you carry and are serious about your responsibilities while carrying, my humble opinion is that you should practice w/your carry gun.
Just my two cents worth after 30 yrs as a LEO.
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The J's are working guns, period. For simply converting powder (and money) into noise, there are indeed better choices. If you're looking for a challenge though, those tiny snubs are hard to beat.
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J-frames are cool. You're missing out.
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FWIW These are my favorite carry and range guns. I have many others but I always shoot these when I go to the range. I would rather shoot these than any other gun. I loves 'em.
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36-1? I have one. Love it.
When I built my cabin up north, I only brought my Model 60 with me on each trip. I didn't want the other guns around. Too busy and too much chance of damage or just getting in the way.
So, every day after work, I'd put a few cylinders through the ol J-frame. Often shooting at bit ends of 2x4's. "Splittin' wood, I called it. Funny how the point of impact gradually fell into line over the course of the summer.
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36-1? I have one. Love it.
When I built my cabin up north, I only brought my Model 60 with me on each trip. I didn't want the other guns around. Too busy and too much chance of damage or just getting in the way.
So, every day after work, I'd put a few cylinders through the ol J-frame. Often shooting at bit ends of 2x4's. "Splittin' wood, I called it. Funny how the point of impact gradually fell into line over the course of the summer.
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My dad just gave me a Chief's Special 2 1/2 inch barrel, I carry it with me every time I go on a walk, I love that gun, and when I do need to carry concealed that's the only one I use
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If I want something fun and accurate I go K or N.
I didn't care for the underlug 681 L frame I had before my 66.
But if I want a plenty potent pocket gun, I reach for the 638-3 with Buffalo Bore Heavy 38's
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J-Frames are a challenge to shoot well at a range but are a very satisfying gun to master.
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I know a bunch of you folks do but for a range gun i like it heavier and easier to hang onto. I have 3 J frames and they are the least favorite of the bunch.
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An airweight Centennial will absolutely disappear into a jeans pocket. It isn't easy to shoot well but it is sure is comforting to have. I carry one almost every day (except on those days when I am out in the field and can open carry a N frame that is)
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I remember when it was thought that J-frames weren't accurate beyond bad-breath distance. Then Bob Munden shot that myth full of holes by popping gallon milk jugs at 100 yards with a Chief's Special!
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I remember when it was thought that J-frames weren't accurate beyond bad-breath distance. Then Bob Munden shot that myth full of holes by popping gallon milk jugs at 100 yards with a Chief's Special!
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There's a guy on Youtube who shoots handguns at long-ish ranges. In one video he shoots an S&W snubbie at over 100 yards and hits some steel silhouettes. Maybe that's the same guy, dunno.
The trouble is, the 642 I have seems to shoot kind of left, so at any distance, I'd be missing way left. I'm still evaluating whether the issue is the gun or me. The thing is a handful with 158s.
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left/ low left is anticipation of recoil. easy fix. you know exactly when it is going to go bang. be ready for it and squeze it off.
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There's a guy on Youtube who shoots handguns at long-ish ranges. In one video he shoots an S&W snubbie at over 100 yards and hits some steel silhouettes. Maybe that's the same guy, dunno.
The trouble is, the 642 I have seems to shoot kind of left, so at any distance, I'd be missing way left. I'm still evaluating whether the issue is the gun or me. The thing is a handful with 158s.
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left/ low left is anticipation of recoil. easy fix. you know exactly when it is going to go bang. be ready for it and squeze it off.
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The small size of the gun, with its attendant short length of [trigger] pull, also makes it very easy to 'push' the gun to one side (the left if you're right-handed, opposite for lefties), even when you're trying to pull the trigger straight back. As you (getoff) note, recoil doesn't help. Careful practice is the only cure.
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There's a guy on Youtube who shoots handguns at long-ish ranges. In one video he shoots an S&W snubbie at over 100 yards and hits some steel silhouettes. Maybe that's the same guy, dunno.
The trouble is, the 642 I have seems to shoot kind of left, so at any distance, I'd be missing way left. I'm still evaluating whether the issue is the gun or me. The thing is a handful with 158s.
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Or Hickok45 maybe?
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This one is quite pleasant (and accurate!) at the range.
Its a .357, but I mostly just load it to "hot .38" levels.
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I have no ambiguity about the carry or effectiveness.
I have them so I shoot them--when I do---like today---I come away wondering why I have them.
Course, one rides the matress and I am not above sticking one in my pants---but I just don't like to shoot em.
I keep saying I am going to sell but I know that is a lie.
Just venting folks.
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Yes the K fits most of us better. But I have noticed my boys will pick up my 36 when we get out to the range. I have not come across a Smith I did not like to shoot.
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Ditto......
I hate mine...threatened to sell it hundreds of times........It's small, convenient, and potent. Really can't stand it.......
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I've never had any interest in them either for some reason. Nice guns and all that, but I have a need/want for one gun that size, and I have a Charter Arms Undercover 38 for that.
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For the most part as a few have already stated, the J-Frames are designed to be concealable, light weight, self defense carry weapons. I don't think the average person would choose one for informal target practice, plinking or for a fun day at the range. Other than my monthly practice sessions with my carry weapon (M60-7 and variants), I don't shoot any of the dozen or so that I own just for fun. For the purpose of which they were designed, I don't see anything better! Since they seem to be the "tail that wags the dog" for S&W these days, I would venture to say there are plenty of others who agree.
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I kind of like em. Cant beat a snub 36, 60 or 40 for the pocket.
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To be completely honest, my M49 isn't a lot of 'fun' to shoot. It stings my hand and is hard to aim accurately. It's my carry, though, so I try to run a few cylinders-full of ammo at each session*, then move to something else.
That said, there is considerable satisfaction when I shoot a good group with it--especially since I might bet my life on it one day.
*I usually shoot it first, so I'm shooting 'cold' as it would be if it were 'for real'.
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I carried this model 60 from about 1970 to 2003 until it was stolen along with my truck. I did as shep564, shot it everytime I went out with other guns, every outing. I got to where I could bounce cans without fail. I had the hammer bobbed (a extra 36 hammer), that was checked and flat on top so I could also shoot it single action. I simply carried it in my pants pocket forever.
I belive they are the most sensible guns ever made to just put in your pocket. I never was big on wearing a holster except when I wore a uniform.
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I too am not a fan of J frames, even though I have owned one for years. Most are excellent revolvers and serve a purpose well, but I just don't feel well armed with one.
I've found as I've gotten older I prefer large handguns, perhaps this is some form of compensating .
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i love mine. wouldnt trade a one of them. if your looking to lighten your j-frame load, let me know what you have and i'll make you an offer.(low offer since you"hate" them)
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by johnsonl
I don't like chick peas.
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^^+1^^ Me neither, but I like my J frame.
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01-19-2014, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Apex, NC
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I carried a Model 342ti as a back up for several years in the field and as a primary when I worked as an administrator. Great carry gun. I used to tell people that it was 364 days of pleasure and one day of pain (day/night annual qualification). I moved on to small semi auto's until retirement and now primarily carry a Kahr P380 daily. That said, I still have a warm place in my heart for a J frame S&W.
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