...the Factory didn't make the 2" Model 15 in a round butt configuration?

Yes...I supposed that since the M-15 was meant to be a service revolver and the 4" was square butt, it was just easiest to put the 2" barrel on the standard square butt frame. I have a nice M-15 2" and a 2" M-10 with round butt and the difference in concealability is very little for me. I do find that the 2" revolver with any sort of larger target grips looks a bit strange. I have the Magnas that it came with supplemented with a T-Grip on it. That combo looks and feels pretty good.

Had the factory built ANY post-war round-butt K frames with target sights before that? The Combat Masterpiece had serrated grip straps and square butt,, so just a shorter barrel and ejector rod were different, probably no new equipment needed to manufacture that.

The Model 19 comes to mind...!

No. Never really understood the 2" 15 or the 2.2" 19. 2" 10/64 and the 3" 13/65 do the job quite nicely. No need for adjustable sights on a snubby.

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I agree. I don't understand why S&W ever made any short barrel revolvers with adjustable sights, whether they be round or square butt frame.

I did a lot of PPC shooting way back in the time most cops were using revolvers. We also had a snubby only matches limited to 25 yards. The winners of those matches most times were adjustable sighted snubbies. (Length limit 2 1/2'') They (adjustable) were the more accurate gun. I tried with both my 36 and 60 and move up considerably in the placements right after I bought a 15 2''.

One of my good buddies a LEO who's shooting skill put him on the governors 20 list for years would only carry a adjustable snubby for off duty use. That was a 15 2‘’ his duty gun at the time was a Smith 19 4’’ department issue!

I carried my 15 2'' for a while even though it was bigger/bulkier than my J frames but went to a SA pistol for many reasons. (another thread perhaps)

I think NYlakesider hit the nail on the head. Target PPC matches were where the adjustable sighted guns won ie. both Pythons as well as Combat Masterpcs.

"Never really understood the 2" 15..."

"I don't understand why S&W ever made any short barrel revolvers with adjustable sights..."


I don't understand either... I just know they look cool and shoot well!



GF

When I was a detective we were issued the M10 2" w/either a SB or RB. Most of us preferred the RB b/c the SB wore the lining out of our sport or suit jackets.

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No, I never wondered why S&W didn't produce round butt 2" Model 15s. Quite the contrary, I wonder why they built any round butt K frames, and honestly don't understand the reason for eliminating square butt frames (for all frame sizes) in recent years. I have owned hundreds of S&W revolvers, and those with round butt frames always felt, well, weird, and didn't fit my hands, requiring aftermarket grips in every case. I never saw any real difference in concealibility. The only round butt K frame I currently own is a 2.5" 19-3, and that is wearing a set of nice aftermarket round-to-square combat grips - much more controllable than the stock magnas, which just get lost in my hands. Did pretty much the same for a 2.5" 66 that I carried for years, same reason.

Oh, one other comment - if one removes the grips from an X frame, that K-round grip frame just makes the gun look really weird and unbalanced. That strikes me every time I remove the grips from one of my 500s for cleaning. YMMV.

Everyone is different, I love the RB K-frame with stock magnas

Ironically the last of the 4" Model 15's all had RB's, as do all the current K-frames. I don't think any of the last 15's were 2".

I for one love the fact that all the new S&W's have round butt frames, except the "Classics". I wish S&W would just make the N-frames with the same grip frame size as the K/L/X and make things easier for all of us. The fact that the X-frame has a K/L sized grip frame while the N frame is still the same N-round grip makes me think that future S&W N-frames will have the grips standardized.

I can see a round but for a 2" or 2.5" K frame or any J frame, but ANY L or N frame, it's just ridiculous. The ONLY round butt N frame I own is a 627-0, and it's just absurd to try to hold it with a set of round but grips on it. I couldnt imagine someone doing that with a 29 or 629 with any regularity. And putting Square butt target stocks on them makes for terrible look ad ackward feel because of the way the backstrap of the frame-grip does not contour to the grip, there is a void, hurts the palms

Thanks nipster. I didn't realize I was both ridiculous and absurd.



And, I have RB stocks on order for both of these recently acquired L-frames.



Thanks to your cogent discussion I now realize how foolish I've been thinking these things were comfortable.

Dave

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I see you have square butt conversion stocks on several of them too, most notably your 6" and 4". Thanks for proving my point...

Go back and read what I wrote before posting those pictures, old rolling eyes:
You just proved you are so stuck in thinking you are always right you can't understand plain English. Give me a brake!

Dave

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