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Speaking of Model 10s..
..these will be mine as soon as i get my NJ Pistol Purchase Permits. (Yes, I know-what took me so long ?)
1. Model 10/No Dash. 4" blue, a tiny bit of muzzle wear, looks little fired if any. Faux stag grips.$400 plus NICS, sales tax.
2. Model 10-5. 4" blue, factory grips. Little fired. $425 plus NICS, sales tax.
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By today's standards, those are great prices.
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Pre-requisite mandatory for joing SWCA?????
I always thought that one MUST own at least one Model 10 before even thinking of becoming a member of SWCA. Thanks to all the "enablers" that reside on this Forum, I've had more than my share, but now down to 3 in the safe, NOT counting the original "Model 10" (a US Army, Model 1899).
3 I shoot regular: Model 10 no-dash, 5", Nickel, shipped April 1959, Model 10-6, 4" Heavy Barrel, shipped December 1973, Model 10-5, 4" tapered bbl, Blue, shipped June 1973.
Love em all...........certainly have served a zillion cops well around the world.
For the OP; Congrats on obtaining ANYTHING firearms related in New Jersey........I lived in Cherry Hill area from 1985 to 1988 and after much wailing and gnashing was able to obtain a Model 29-2 after about a year and a half. Left in 1988 and never really looked back. Where can you shoot your new-to-you Model 10's when you get them? I travelled a lot in those days, but never really found a place to shoot...at least not in South Jersey.
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The owner of gunshop/range where the 10/No Dash is told me revolvers aren't selling right now. I prefer to buy locally, save on the transfer fees and you actually get to examine them closely.
I was a long-time patron of Ray's in Scotch Plains and there was a
gunshop/range in Hillsborough just north of where I live years ago. 3 indoor ranges have opened up in the last 5-6 years about 30-40 minutes from me.
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That's probably true but not including snubbies. I do believe that J-frames continue to sell well and I bet the new .32 caliber J-frames will do really well. 4" revolvers not so much because the market is concealment and polymer oriented as a general rule.
4" .357 Magnum Model 10 for your viewing pleasure because everyone loves pictures:
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@cmansguns: there are a few outdoor ranges and significantly more indoor ranges in South Jersey. There are currently 3 indoor ranges along the coast between Cape May and Atlantic City, and at least 3 along the Delaware between Deep Water and Burlington City.
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I would love to walk into my LGS in Lakewood,NJ and find 2 model 10's for those prices! Nice score X2 BLACKHAWKNJ!
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ISCS Yoda, is that one of the 10-6's that I have read about? I have three model 10's in my collection. Two -7 snubs, that I unfortunately, don't have photos of. One nickel and one blue. One 10-10, and one M&P snub as shown below.
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Model 10 is a great gun. Had an early snubby once. Should have held on to it
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Oh man!!!
Very nice ISCS
One of my many desired grail guns…
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That's probably true but not including snubbies. I do believe that J-frames continue to sell well and I bet the new .32 caliber J-frames will do really well. 4" revolvers not so much because the market is concealment and polymer oriented as a general rule.
4" .357 Magnum Model 10 for your viewing pleasure because everyone loves pictures:
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Congratulations on being able to score a couple of Model 10's up there in Jersey. From what I understand it's not an easy thing to do.
I don't have a Model 10 anymore, so I've had to settle for a couple of M&P 38's.
One from 1954 apparently.
The other from 1916.
It's funny. Back when I was much younger, and was under the spell of Jeff Cooper, and the 1911 mafia, I laughed at the poor Model 10. Those skinny grips, the "pencil" barrel. The 38 Special? Would that even kill a rabbit?
I'm older now and not a lot smarter, but maybe a bit better educated.
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.357 Model 10 ? Wouldn't that be a Model 13 ?
I have stayed in NJ too long, but there are a number of good gunshops and I have on the whole done pretty well.
Yes, I am a Jeff Cooper fan but a hit with a Minor Caliber hurts a lot worse than a Miss with a Major.
A pre-war 5 screw is one I would like to find, I can pretend I am a hero in a serial fighting saboteurs and traitors.
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Much as I love my beautiful older M&Ps, this humble LEO trade-in Model 10-6 gets an inordinate amount of my attention. I got it for a song, presumably because its action was absolutely terrible. Disassembling it and removing the sticky, varnish-like dried oils the previous owner had sprayed regularly and indiscriminately into its innards cured all its ills.
I don’t care for the looks of the heavy barrel, and the Goodyears (if period-appropriate) are downright ugly. But this is a *sweet* shooter.
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Hoping not to offend, but Frailer, don't you love the matte black finish of the top of that heavy barrel of your 10-6---for me it just makes and amazing contrast.
Congrats BlackhawkNJ those were some great prices. I just bought a 4" heavy barrel 10-6 for $575 and thought I got a "deal"---you did very well
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Nice find on the 10s. I used to live in Somerset and would frequent the range/gun shop in Hillsborough, but I can’t remember its name. I bought a Russian SKS there when they had them by the barrel sitting on the floor. I used the range plenty of times and got to shoot my first Luger there when a fellow shooter let me try it out.
This was all about 25 years ago, it’s sad to hear the shop is gone. Rays too.
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Much as I love my beautiful older M&Ps, this humble LEO trade-in Model 10-6 gets an inordinate amount of my attention. I got it for a song, presumably because its action was absolutely terrible. Disassembling it and removing the sticky, varnish-like dried oils the previous owner had sprayed regularly and indiscriminately into its innards cured all its ills.
I don’t care for the looks of the heavy barrel, and the Goodyears (if period-appropriate) are downright ugly. But this is a *sweet* shooter.
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And I think the Pachmayr Presentation grips look great. They just look like serious business to me. Of course they were all the rage back in the day.
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I like it very much indeed; it’s both practical and classy.
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.357 Model 10 ? Wouldn't that be a Model 13 ?
I have stayed in NJ too long, but there are a number of good gunshops and I have on the whole done pretty well.
Yes, I am a Jeff Cooper fan but a hit with a Minor Caliber hurts a lot worse than a Miss with a Major.
A pre-war 5 screw is one I would like to find, I can pretend I am a hero in a serial fighting saboteurs and traitors.
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The NY State Police wanted a light weight .357 Magnum so they asked S&W to make them a Model 10 in .357. S&W complied and the guns were a hit, so S&W kept making them and called them the Model 13. After a few years, the troopers saw the guns weren’t really up to the task of firing steady .357, so they needed something else. The troopers didn’t want adjustable sights so S&W created the N frame Model 520 and S&W placed the order for the whole agency. Once they realized it was a 6 month wait, they changed the order and went with the Model 28, which had adjustable sights since that was their only choice. Once the L frame was created, the troopers went to the fixed sighted Model 681, which was their last revolver.
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The NY State Police wanted a light weight .357 Magnum so they asked S&W to make them a Model 10 in .357. S&W complied and the guns were a hit, so S&W kept making them and called them the Model 13. After a few years, the troopers saw the guns weren’t really up to the task of firing steady .357, so they needed something else. The troopers didn’t want adjustable sights so S&W created the N frame Model 520 and S&W placed the order for the whole agency. Once they realized it was a 6 month wait, they changed the order and went with the Model 28, which had adjustable sights since that was their only choice. Once the L frame was created, the troopers went to the fixed sighted Model 681, which was their last revolver.
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Someone in the NYSP hierarchy had a hard time making up their minds.
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When it comes to Model 10s, I much prefer
the standard (pencil) barrel. I know all the
reasons for a heavy barrel but I don't care.
I also think the Model 64 standard barrel is
really quite a looker.
With the standard barrel, I get a high front
sight and that's what guides me in shooting
a revolver. The rear notch or a rear adjustable
sight on other models is but a guide for me
to zero in on the front and the target.
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Not really. The .357 Model 10's would have stayed if they were up to the task of full time .357 Magnum. When it became obvious they weren't, another gun needed to replace it. The 520 would have been fine, but they couldn't wait 6 months and continue to keep the guns on the road. They took the 28-2 with the adjustable sights because there was no option. When the 681 came along, that solved all the problems and they went with that.
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.357 Model 10 ? Wouldn't that be a Model 13 ?
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I believe it was in about the same time frame that S&W introduced the 10 in .357, they also produced a 64-1 in .357 for law enforcement. According to Roy, it was the prototype for the M-65.
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When it comes to Model 10s, I much prefer
the standard (pencil) barrel. I know all the
reasons for a heavy barrel but I don't care.
I also think the Model 64 standard barrel is
really quite a looker.
With the standard barrel, I get a high front
sight and that's what guides me in shooting
a revolver. The rear notch or a rear adjustable
sight on other models is but a guide for me
to zero in on the front and the target.
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I’m with you, UncleEd. For me, a 64 with a standard barrel and round-butt would the bee’s knees.
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Everything you need and nothing you don't, the Model 10 is simplistic beauty, function and style.
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And I think the Pachmayr Presentation grips look great. They just look like serious business to me. Of course they were all the rage back in the day.
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Perhaps “ugly” was a poorly-chosen word. I absolutely agree they are “businesslike.” And there is no question they work; I have no intention of replacing them.
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Interesting that the NYSP found the .357 Model 10/Model 13 did not hold to a steady diet of .357s. Sounds like their training/qualification program is quite rigorous, and I wonder what load they were using.
The Pachmayr grips are an excellent example of form and function greatly outweighing aesthetics. I have them on my 4" M-19 and 4" nickel M-27 , on the latter they provide a pleasing contrast with the finish.
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