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Old 03-06-2013, 01:16 PM
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6" M629-0 P&R near mint for auction. What is it really worth? No box or tools. Thanks, Big Larry
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Is this actually a -0 engineering revision of the 629 or are you trying to say this is a 629 with no engineering revisions?

Original wood target grips grips?

If this is going to auction, you will know what it is worth when the last bid is placed.

I would think that a clean 6" 629 no dash would easily bring $800-$1000 in today's crazy market.
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As stated, pinned and recessed M629-0, "0" meaning no revisions. "N" serial number prefix. I would like to know what I should bid, not what the final bid is. By then, it is too late. Thanks, Big Larry
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As stated, pinned and recessed M629-0, "0" meaning no revisions. "N" serial number prefix. I would like to know what I should bid, not what the final bid is. By then, it is too late. Thanks, Big Larry
If it were me I would stop at $800.
That being said I'm getting outbid a lot lately.
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where I felt comfy.
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Thanks. I know the P&R M629 is a pretty scarce gun, but the bid is over $800 now. I already have a M629-1, I guess I should just do with that. Thanks, Big Larry
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As stated, pinned and recessed M629-0, "0" meaning no revisions. "N" serial number prefix. I would like to know what I should bid, not what the final bid is. By then, it is too late. Thanks, Big Larry
Hey Big...I just referenced the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson and there is no mention of a 629-0. Therefore the gun you're referring to must be a fake. Walk away!
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I guess I should make it clear for the collectors on this forum. M629 NO DASH, which ALL pinned and recessed M629's are. Thanks for setting me straight. Big
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The 629 6" gun was introduced in 1979. The 4" and the 8 3/8" guns were introduced in 1981. The -1 engineering change was inplemented in 1982. One more thing to consider for the collector is the "ABCxxxx" serial numbering system was intorduced sometime around 1982/83. The hard to find gun is a 4", P&R, w/N serial number prefix.



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The 629 6" gun was introduced in 1979. The 4" and the 8 3/8" guns were introduced in 1981. The -1 engineering change was inplemented in 1982. One more thing to consider for the collector is the "ABCxxxx" serial numbering system was intorduced sometime around 1982/83. The hard to find gun is a 4", P&R, w/N serial number prefix.



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Big Larry,

I often use the "-0" symbol to define no-dash guns also.

The reason is so many people attempt to promote their later engineered guns (which may not be as rare as a no-dash and therefore potentially of less value), as a not necessary inclusion in their model description.

As is the case with 629's, we often hear someone say when asked for more detail -- "uh, oh ya.... It's a dash 2 or 3" when asked to clarify the guns dash number. Their convenient omission can have a significant impact on the value of the firearm.

Rather than spell out "no-dash" I prefer to simply type "-0". Sorry if that offends some people but that's what I do and why I do it....
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Hey Big Larry & TDC
Some of the confuuuzzzzion from and/or cosssssern about this -0 topic might stem from the fact that S&W DID use the -0 on one model's designation. In 1989 they produced a 357Mag, N frame, stainless steel, 5 1/2" barrel, unfluted cylinder, and RB gun! The model is the 627-0!



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Hey jcelect,

Not to split hairs here but it seems the reference to the non use of the "-0" would best be applied to the "80 to present" section rather than the "61 to 80" area where the post was made...

Maybe I'm missing something but I'm unaware of any "-0" usage that occurred prior to 1980 unless it was a mis-stamp. Guess we're gonna have to check the "S&W Owners Constitution" to find a definitive answer....
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In any event, the M629 went for over $1,000 with shipping. Not a great deal as far as I am concerned. Big Larry
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Let me know if you find one cheeper. I going next weekend to look at one for 850 no box no tools no case rubber tires for grips. Just sayin?????
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The issue of value for the 629 no-dash is supply and demand in its classic form.... All of us would like to find these guns for a couple of hundred less than what they are currently selling for but those opportunities are few and far between today...

I keep fairly close track of these guns in my area and I've only had one opportunity in the last three years to acquire a 4". That involved a multi-gun purchase from a friend. It was the "highlight" gun of the purchase...

I'd suggest the issue shouldn't be asking others what the value of this particular gun is but what it is worth to you to add to your collection. Remember, you are competing with both serious collectors as well as speculators and the list of those people interested in acquiring the first 629's increases daily.

Like jcelect and a few others on this board I have the full barrel length collection of the early guns. I'm the original owner having purchased them when they were introduced. They remain NIB. I also have a 4" and an 8 3/8" I shoot occasionally. I wouldn't sell any of them for anywhere near the prices seen quoted and I'm sure few others who own them, and are aware of what they are, would either...

Just sayin' and JMHO

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Well, I actually gave up collecting S&W's and went on to Winchesters. There are a couple of S&W's I would like to have, but I would not want to offer a lot more than they go for if I can find out in advance what they are bringing. Things worked out for me Friday when I offered a friend $800 for a sight unseen Python with 6" bbl. He brought the gun to his restaurant and handed me the box. It was not a Python, it was a gun worth much, much, more. A Colt Grizzly. He was happy with his $800 and I didn't have a clue as to what I bought. A little computer time produced two 2 year old auctions where the Grizzly brought $3,300. A trip to the Colt Forum made the value much better, $4 to $5,000. In this case, an $800 offer made on a sight unseen Python turned out real well for me. Now, I can sell this and buy 5 M629's for my $800 investment. I would much rather get into a gun deal with a little more knowledge. Thanks, Big Larry
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The issue of value for the 629 no-dash is supply and demand in its classic form.... All of us would like to find these guns for a couple of hundred less than what they are currently selling for but those opportunities are few and far between today...

I keep fairly close track of these guns in my area and I've only had one opportunity in the last three years to acquire a 4". That involved a multi-gun purchase from a friend. It was the "highlight" gun of the purchase...

I'd suggest the issue shouldn't be asking others what the value of this particular gun is but what it is worth to you to add to your collection. Remember, you are competing with both serious collectors as well as speculators and the list of those people interested in acquiring the first 629's increases daily.

Just sayin' and JMHO

I couldn't agree more. I just stumbled across this gem, a 4" 629 No Dash, Ser. No. N854XXX, NIB with the outer shipping box and label, cardboard box, unopened tools, and the presentation case is still shrink wrapped. The cost was a premium, but not outrageous, and I don't think I'm liable to find another like it at my age.

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I am on my way with the $$$$ as we speak. Big Larry
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I just sold a NIB no dash 629, 6" for $1595, plus shipping. The gun was absolutely pristine, and the buyer was thrilled to have it. It was worth every penny to him.
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I know it is the law of supply and demand. Get what you can get for any gun, but deals abound. Last year, off this very Forum, I bought a good 98% K-32 heavy bbl from 1952, for $2,250 shipped. 100% correct down to the diamond center, numbered to the gun, magnas.Now, was that a deal or what? Big Larry
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