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My 57-2 8 /38’hogues.
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So anyone buy any .41s lately???

I'm still looking for a Taurus Titanium snubbie but no luck so far...
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So anyone buy any .41s lately???

I'm still looking for a Taurus Titanium snubbie but no luck so far...
I put one on layaway. Does that count? It's a Model 57-1, from about 1985 it looks like. Not pinned and recessed, but looks like it has never been fired. It's got a 6" barrel (breaking my own rule of 4" guns only) and the three t's.

When I mentioned to my wife that I was going to stop by the gun store, she asked what I was looking for. Not a thing. The only thing that MIGHT interest me would be a 41 magnum. I've got about 400 Berry's 41 bullets, brass, dies and such, but no 41 magnum gun. Sure enough I walked in and the first thing I saw was that Model 57 in the case. I'm sure they have me bugged some way or the other.

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No idea why I wanted it, other than I have ammo for it.
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image.jpgI have 3 .41’s, a 1965 M57 6”, a 1980image.jpg 8 3/8”, and a Ruger 6 1/2”
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You wanted it because it is a wonderful caliber and a pleasure to shoot !
Load up some .41 special rounds and have a great time.
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Superman's love of the .41 Magnum, and his generosity is how this ammo came to happen.



I had a number of people asking for a general purpose .41 Magnum load. The problem is that I did not have a .41. Bob (AKA Superman) sent out his Model 27 converted to .41 Magnum, in my favorite 5" barrel length.


After some test and development, the 215 grain Hard Cast Semi Wadcutter was chosen at a nominal 1210 FPS. It has proven to be an accurate and easy shooting load. Lots of fun!

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My .41 mags, 1965 6”, 1982 8 3/8” , and a 1984 Blackhawk
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Most 210 factory loads run 1250+- fps from a 4" barrel... They aren't near as bad as the 240s from a .44 Magnum in terms of recoil but are still pretty "stiff".

Some of the 210s I have seen lately are really over the top...they get everything one can out of a .41 but followup shots are going to be slowed down...

..over 1500 fps from a 6"...



In my DA guns I've slowed things down to a max of high 1100s from a 4" for defensive purposes against 2 or 4 leggers... A hardcast at 1100+ is going to shoot thought anything I'm libel to encounter...and it's easier on the hands, wrists and elbows...

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Six rounds at 20 yards. The one out of the group was a called pull...

This was with the Lost River 210 HC S W C... 1980 4" 57 with Herrett's Detective grips
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I got the gun out of hock, got it cleaned up and presentable, and took it to the range with 100 rounds of my reloads. Virgin Star-Line brass, Unique powder, and a 210 grain Berry's TC bullet.





It cleaned up pretty well. "It" is a 57-1 from about 1985 it looks like. I don't think it had ever been fired. Excuse the poor pictures, about the best I can do with my phone.

I had figured I'd fire off about half that 100 rounds, but ended up shooting them all. I've never fired a round of any kind of factory 41 ammo, and what I load would be considered mild at best, and of course the big gun soaks a lot of it up.

I was only shooting at seven yards, standing, DA, my standard I can see what I'm doing and not look too bad range.



I did have to adjust the sights to bring it right. About 4 clicks I think it was. A very nice shooting gun. I'm not to crazy about the target trigger. Not the best for DA shooting, but it will do. For SA, something I don't do often anymore it's great.

The brass has been reloaded at this point and is ready to go again.
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Your Berry's bullet load with 8.0 grains of Unique is may GoTo target load. 950 fps from a 4" and excellent accuracy...

Nice gun and great shooting...

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My new to me 57 Mountain Gun w/ new Culina's thanks to DubsModel29

Took her out on a little hike through the ponderosa pines, gonna put some rounds through her this weekend. Loaded up some 210 Hornady XTP, WW 296, 19grs. Also some Double Tap 170 gr SJHP.
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First year Model 57 with original Coke grips. Shipped April 1st 1964. One of the first 150 shipped by S&W per Doc44. Used but not abused. My only 41 magnum but a favorite.


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Seeing this thread reminded me, I had put together a descent collection of 41 Magnums. Eleven in total. Sold off two, one blued 57 4" and one 657-4 6". Nine remaining are, two blued model 57's in 6", one blued 57 4", one blued 58, one PC 657-3 Magnum Hunter, one PC 657-4 2 1/2", one 657 3", one 657-4 6 1/2" Power Port, one 657-4 mountain gun. Here is the only photo I currently have access to.

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Hi there
here my beauty, number S2526xx, bought recently in Germany without box.
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I used to consider the .357 to be my favorite cartridge, but several years ago I got the itch to find a model 57 since everyone extolls the virtue of the .41 Mag.
In our area it's quite rare to see any gun of that chambering show up at a gun shop, but one day I stopped at a LGS on my lunch break and someone had just traded in a 5.5" Ruger Redhawk. Even though a 57 or 657 was what I truly wanted, the shop owner cut me a deal that I couldn't resist and I figured the Ruger would at least scratch the .41 itch until the right deal on a Smith showed up. Well, in fact it did, and the .41 became my new favorite cartridge.
A year or two later while perusing G-Broker I lucked into a decent deal on a 6" 57-1. It came with Pachs, but a member here on the forum was very kind to cut me a deal on a nice set of combats which dressed it up quite handsomely. I finally had my long-awaited 57!
The 57-1 barely had a chance to cool off from the drive home from the FFL when a 6" nickel 57 no-dash then showed up on G-Broker, catching my attention. While it didn't appear to be in too terrible of condition, the poor quality pictures suggested that the nickel finish might be less than desirable, not to mention the fact that the smooth targets had quite an ugly finish. After messaging the seller, on a hunch I went ahead and bid, winning it for what I figured was a safe amount for the condition it appeared to be in.
The several-day wait between my bid and the drive to my FFL to pick it up were long, and to be honest I was having some buyer's remorse out of concern for the nickel. Upon walking into his shop and pulling it out of the shipping box, however, I was most pleasantly surprised to find the finish to in fact be very nice. Score!!!
After taking it home I pulled the stocks off and went to work stripping them since someone had slathered on some nasty, dark stain and varnish. After the varnish was removed it took a couple of days soaking them in acetone, dumping and changing it out for fresh acetone several times to leach the dark, nasty stain from the wood. Finally they were clean and--score again-- smooth rosewood targets!!! Several coats of Tru-Oil (with no stain) gave them the look that I wanted, and although I've never been a big fan of nickel guns this one soon became one of my very favorites.
Since then it has been my good fortune to pick up a nice 6" 657-2 (seems like I can only find the 6-inch Smiths), followed later by a 4 5/8" Ruger New Model Blackhawk. Then a year ago--while again spending my lunch break at the same gun shop that had the Redhawk--I ran across a brand-new-in-box, 6.5" unconverted 1970 Blackhawk. A guy certainly doesn't get that opportunity very often, so of course it ended up joining the gang.
Someday it would be nice to find a deal on a nice 58, not to mention a 657 Lew Horton, but it will truly be a good day if/when one of my grail guns finds its way to me--the Marlin 1894 in .41. Maybe if the planets and stars align properly Ruger will bring it back.
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To offset all the beautiful revolvers in this thread is just got this P&R Model 58. This must qualify as the ugliest non-Webley revolver I have ever possessed. In its defense the bore and chambers are excellent and the action is as slick as an old N-frame gets.



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[QUOTE=old tanker;141885363]To offset all the beautiful revolvers in this thread is just got this P&R Model 58. This must qualify as the ugliest non-Webley revolver I have ever possessed. In its defense the bore and chambers are excellent and the action is as slick as an old N-frame gets.

definitely qualifies as a "glovebox gun" lol
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To offset all the beautiful revolvers in this thread is just got this P&R Model 58. This must qualify as the ugliest non-Webley revolver I have ever possessed. In its defense the bore and chambers are excellent and the action is as slick as an old N-frame gets.

definitely qualifies as a "glovebox gun" lol
The story I got was it came out of a police evidence locker in Georgia. Perhaps we now know what Billie Joe MacAllister was throwing off the Tallahatchie Bridge.
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So anyone buy any .41s lately???

I'm still looking for a Taurus Titanium snubbie but no luck so far...
The last 41 Magnum that I found was a three screw, Ruger Blackhawk with a four digit serial number.
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I also found some pictures on my phone. One that got away (657-4 6"), and one still in the safe (657-4 Power Port). I foolishly went through a period of time that I didn't really care for six-inch barrels. I sold off a few really nice guns. Thankfully I came back to my senses.
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I used to consider the .357 to be my favorite cartridge, but several years ago I got the itch to find a model 57 since everyone extolls the virtue of the .41 Mag.
In our area it's quite rare to see any gun of that chambering show up at a gun shop, but one day I stopped at a LGS on my lunch break and someone had just traded in a 5.5" Ruger Redhawk. Even though a 57 or 657 was what I truly wanted, the shop owner cut me a deal that I couldn't resist and I figured the Ruger would at least scratch the .41 itch until the right deal on a Smith showed up. Well, in fact it did, and the .41 became my new favorite cartridge.
A year or two later while perusing G-Broker I lucked into a decent deal on a 6" 57-1. It came with Pachs, but a member here on the forum was very kind to cut me a deal on a nice set of combats which dressed it up quite handsomely. I finally had my long-awaited 57!
The 57-1 barely had a chance to cool off from the drive home from the FFL when a 6" nickel 57 no-dash then showed up on G-Broker, catching my attention. While it didn't appear to be in too terrible of condition, the poor quality pictures suggested that the nickel finish might be less than desirable, not to mention the fact that the smooth targets had quite an ugly finish. After messaging the seller, on a hunch I went ahead and bid, winning it for what I figured was a safe amount for the condition it appeared to be in.
The several-day wait between my bid and the drive to my FFL to pick it up were long, and to be honest I was having some buyer's remorse out of concern for the nickel. Upon walking into his shop and pulling it out of the shipping box, however, I was most pleasantly surprised to find the finish to in fact be very nice. Score!!!
After taking it home I pulled the stocks off and went to work stripping them since someone had slathered on some nasty, dark stain and varnish. After the varnish was removed it took a couple of days soaking them in acetone, dumping and changing it out for fresh acetone several times to leach the dark, nasty stain from the wood. Finally they were clean and--score again-- smooth rosewood targets!!! Several coats of Tru-Oil (with no stain) gave them the look that I wanted, and although I've never been a big fan of nickel guns this one soon became one of my very favorites.
Since then it has been my good fortune to pick up a nice 6" 657-2 (seems like I can only find the 6-inch Smiths), followed later by a 4 5/8" Ruger New Model Blackhawk. Then a year ago--while again spending my lunch break at the same gun shop that had the Redhawk--I ran across a brand-new-in-box, 6.5" unconverted 1970 Blackhawk. A guy certainly doesn't get that opportunity very often, so of course it ended up joining the gang.
Someday it would be nice to find a deal on a nice 58, not to mention a 657 Lew Horton, but it will truly be a good day if/when one of my grail guns finds its way to me--the Marlin 1894 in .41. Maybe if the planets and stars align properly Ruger will bring it back.


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...ugly...ugly...no, that's character, been there and done that experience...

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...one of the worst cases I have ever read in this thread of 4T1itus...

...fortunately there is no vaccine...

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I keep searching for a cure and think perhaps the Marlin and Model 58 could do the trick, but I won't know for sure until finding them.
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Nope, those won't do it. Started with a 58, then a Marlin 1894 and I still suffer the effects. Just acquired a Mountain Gun. In fact leaving in a couple hours to shoot them all. Hopefully that won't cure it.
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Old 12-16-2023, 12:53 PM
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To offset all the beautiful revolvers in this thread is just got this P&R Model 58. This must qualify as the ugliest non-Webley revolver I have ever possessed. In its defense the bore and chambers are excellent and the action is as slick as an old N-frame gets.



Might be interesting to learn that gun's history. I believe that blood can do to a blued finish what the damage is like on that one, if left on the gun long enough.

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The story I got was it came out of a police evidence locker in Georgia. Perhaps we now know what Billie Joe MacAllister was throwing off the Tallahatchie Bridge.
Maybe the body of who he shot with it??
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Old 12-16-2023, 12:58 PM
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The 41-itus is a " self feeding " disease . The more you want -- the more you buy ! The more you buy -- the more you want ! I speak from experience . Regards Paul
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Old 12-16-2023, 02:13 PM
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I'm blessed to have two M57 (ND) both blued and nickel with 4 inch barrels.
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I keep searching for a cure and think perhaps the Marlin and Model 58 could do the trick, but I won't know for sure until finding them.

...you can not "buy" your way out of this. As was said, the more you want, the more you buy...

...and see you even forgot about the LH Special...or was that a deliberate omission just so you would have an excuse to buy another...

Then of course you will come across one of those one of a kind customs, that beckons, "just one more"....

...ask me how I know this...
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