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11-20-2014, 07:08 PM
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Model 58 Buy or Pass
I will be looking at a 58 with box & papers with a 3 digit "N" serial number. Seller claims gently used 90-95% with non diamond target stocks.
Is this a $800 gun? I think $100 too high.
Were N Cokes made without diamonds?
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Bob
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11-20-2014, 07:20 PM
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If it is 90%, it is too high, 95% OK. That is for a 58, not a 58-2.
I do not fancy myself a grip expert but here is my 2 cents worth:
There were some smooth targets made in a "coke" profile but not during the era of this revolver. There were not (to my knowledge) any non-diamond "coke" profile checkered grips made for S&W back in the day. There are some made today with medallions (like Kuracs).
Good Luck & we need pics!!!
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11-20-2014, 07:33 PM
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I agree with you and with USM1rifle above. It is a tad too high.
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11-20-2014, 07:38 PM
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It likely has smooth Target stocks from the era of the gun (late 1970s). I agree with usm1rifle, OK at 95% (but you'll need to find the scarce N frame PC Magnas if you want an "original" gun) and not the recent -1.
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11-20-2014, 07:51 PM
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While that price may seem high, S&W 58's don't come up for sale often, certainly not in my area. I would buy it, enjoy it, and take my time looking for an even nicer version. I bought a used blue steel 58 back in 2008 with the box, unnumbered but proper stocks, no papers, in about 70% condition cosmetically for $550.00. I carry it, but intend to have the factory nickel it in a few years. I have been searching for a nickel version since I bought mine.
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11-20-2014, 09:19 PM
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The Std. Catalog on pg 221 says the Model 58 was discontinued in 1969. Is this not correct ? Also, would a low 3 digit N s/n likely be 1969 production? It also says M 58 production was 20,287.That sounds like a high number.
Anyone have more information?
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11-20-2014, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ColbyBruce
While that price may seem high, S&W 58's don't come up for sale often, certainly not in my area. I would buy it, enjoy it, and take my time looking for an even nicer version. I bought a used blue steel 58 back in 2008 with the box, unnumbered but proper stocks, no papers, in about 70% condition cosmetically for $550.00. I carry it, but intend to have the factory nickel it in a few years. I have been searching for a nickel version since I bought mine.
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I'm in the same area and have had the same problem finding 58's. Nickel 58's are like the proverbial hen's tooth. There are a couple dealers in the state that have high condition 58's from time to time but their prices are always HIGH. Some one will pay that $800 sooner or later.
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11-20-2014, 11:58 PM
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Quote:
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The Std. Catalog on pg 221 says the Model 58 was discontinued in 1969. Is this not correct ? Also, would a low 3 digit N s/n likely be 1969 production? It also says M 58 production was 20,287.That sounds like a high number.
Anyone have more information?
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More like 1967-68, and yes the 20,000 number is about right. They are hard to find cause those that have them, keep them. Go buy the gun.
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11-21-2014, 11:33 AM
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Even without the correct PC Magna grips with box, paperwork and a set of S&W Target Stocks $800 is very reasonable if the condition is or better than described.
58s were made through 1974. There were a lot of them made but there aren't a lot for sale...
The 'unofficial' 58 Club
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11-21-2014, 02:06 PM
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I saw a very eary S-Serial numbered (Lazy Amersand) 58 with Diamond Magnas in excellent, excellent condition. No Box no papers.
$800 cash and it would have been mine out the door.
I held it, I looked at it, I tried to mind meld with it. but it did not scream take me home.
I had the cash, Eight $100 bills.
I let it go.
Next time I go back, if it is still there, I will have the same conversation with it.
But to me, as nice as it was, it was not Model 57, 29 or 66 Nice. You know what I mean?
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11-21-2014, 06:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob42
I will be looking at a 58 with box & papers with a 3 digit "N" serial number. Seller claims gently used 90-95% with non diamond target stocks.
Is this a $800 gun? I think $100 too high.
Were N Cokes made without diamonds?
Thanks
Bob
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Can't answer your question, but back in the middle 1990s I was working the gun counter when one of these came in on consignment. It was about 98-99% condition, all honest holster wear. Mechanically perfect. We were asking $450.00 for it, based on what the customer wanted out of it. I was tempted to buy it, but was a little strapped for cash at that time, so didn't. Sure wish I had found a way to come up with the money. It didn't stay in the display case for long.
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