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Two Combat Masterpieces
A relative of mine recently passed away. His widow called wanting me to look "at a couple of guns" to give her a value.
She handed me a walnut presentation box "I just found these". Inside were a Model 15-3 and 18-3 Combat Masterpiece.
Immaculate. My guess is the 15-3 is almost 100% and the 18-3 is 98%.
He tried to lowball her on the price and she offered them to me.
Pictures later.
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Low ball? What did he offer and what would you offer? Walnut presentation case or Philippine mahogany? Pictures please if you can?
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Looking forward to seeing the photo's.
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"He" who? A local dealer? Friend? Acquaintance? How do you know it was a lowball offer? Did she tell you how much it was? Is she gun value savvy enough to realize the approximate going rate or did you tell her it was a lowball offer?
Now,to wag the value,I would say about $1200 total if she includes the case. JMO,FWIW.
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I assumed he was talking about the brother in law (which he has now edited out). You know how they can be. 
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Yea, the BIL. She knows about as much about guns as I do women. Soon as I figure out how to post the pic, I will.
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Low ball? What did he offer and what would you offer? Walnut presentation case or Philippine mahogany? Pictures please if you can?
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Her brother in law told her they were only worth about $750. I did some research and gave her a $1250 number. I had no intention of getting in a bidding war, I was just trying to help her.
She told him, he's out.
She wants me to buy them. We'll have to get together on a price.
There goes my gun budget.
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If you are trying to figure out what a fair price is then the $1250 you proposed seems like a fair price between relatives however you may have been a little generous but not by much? If she sells to you she doesn't have to worry about who she's selling to, she doesn't have to worry about placing ads and paying for the ads or answering them, and she doesn't have auction fees to pay. I imagine retail asking price for these two guns might be roughly $1500 and an out the door retail price might be closer to $1300-1400.
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She has a daughter. I told her these need to stay in the family but the daughter, nor her children, have any interest. The Brother In Law is a ****. There is a "family price" and then there is a "fair price".
I didn't intend to start a bidding war. Just wanted to make sure she didn't get taken advantage of.
Kinda hosed myself.
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I have a 15-2 and an 18-2; numbered grips, tools, and original labeled box. I would think, combined, they would sell for $1500 - $1600. Not sure you have original boxes or numbered grips? The presentation is nice; thats just an extra. Good Luck
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"Kinda hosed myself." yea and no. You paid almost top dollar but its family. You loved him (no not the BIL) and you love her. You didnt want them leaving the family or her to get ripped off. Plus a widowed grandmother now has over a G to spend on bills or vacation this summer.
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Keep your favorite of the two and offer the other at full market price to the bil.
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I try and treat fairly because if you don't, it will back up on you and Karma will bite you in the butt.
She doesn't need the money. I stopped by and fixed a lock at her house today. "Just pay me when every you can, don't worry about it"
Range trip! The .22 shoots low left, the .38 high left.
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Karma will make sure in the long run, something good will find it's way to you and Karma will also send something not so good to the BIL.
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Some how we now own 5 Smiths. Post war M&P .38, these two, Mod 59 (my first handgun) and a M&P .45 (my edc).
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Don't worry, this is precisely what gun budgets are for.
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Range trip! The .22 shoots low left, the .38 high left.[/QUOTE]
Try this diagram
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...I didn't intend to start a bidding war. Just wanted to make sure she didn't get taken advantage of.
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You didn't hose yourself at all! You did the right thing and it was something to be proud of. People who take advantage of widows in gun deals because "she didn't need the money" (among dozens of other "excuses") are a pet peeve - and disgusting. Either pay a fair price or try to help her get a fair price. Exactly what you did. Good for you. 
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She gave to me for the original $800. I explained to her several times how much they were worth. She told me "Keep telling me, and I'll raise the price."
I've been married long enough to know when to shut up.
Her dead bolt quit working so I stopped by and installed one we had laying at the house.
She told me "looks like $100 to me!".
Might get to keep my kidney.
The Director (of finance and sex) found out what happened, she just shook her head and smiled
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And therein lies your reward! If it was me,I would HAVE to tell the B-I-L. Can't help it,it's just the way I am.
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I'm late getting in on this but, this is why I enjoy the Forum. So many good people willing to do "what's right" or treat other people good when they don't have to. Good for you brother!!
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Ermagherd! They're very nice! $1250 isn't far off, I just bought a 15-2 in 75% and I paid $650 for mine. There were several in similar condition to mine with nicer grips for $800-1000
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The B.I.L. may of had plans to sell the revolvers as soon as he could for a tidy profit.
Many years ago I got my lake property for a good price. The former owner found out his son was using the old cabin as a lovers nest with the company secretary. The old man didn't like his son messing around on the mother of his grand kids. He did what he could to put a stop to it.
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GUN and BUDGET have never been in the same sentence in my brain!! You did good with the purchase. Stop overthinking it and enjoy the purchase - life is too short!
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From a guy who knows a little about presentation cases! A Walnut, plain Jane, presentation case would cost me $100 and for me to make a set of liners for those guns I would charge $100. Your heart was in the right place! Too bad the gun budget got hit, you'll find more for the gun budget! Way to go Navy!
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Around here $1250 was a bargain. You did not get hosed at all, You got a good deal. ENJOY.
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Around here $1250 was a bargain. You did not get hosed at all, You got a good deal. ENJOY.
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You do realize this thread is from 2015, don't you? The $1250 price six years ago may have indeed been generous.
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My dad got rid of a bunch of guns long before I was interested in them. I would love the have the chance to pay a premium for what he got rid of.
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Did the secretary come along with the cabin?
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She has a daughter. I told her these need to stay in the family but the daughter, nor her children, have any interest. The Brother In Law is a ****. There is a "family price" and then there is a "fair price".
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What you did was honorable.
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