Jammed casing in chamber

[shinbone]

Can anyone opine about what is going on with what appears to be an unfired round jammed into the chamber past the ejector star?

[weatherby]

I'll opine that it's a smaller cartridge that shouldn't have been put in

[WisconsinKen]

Did the other 2 rounds discharge without any issue? Were you able to eject the 2 other rounds shown remaining in the cylinder? How does the "mashed" round look from the business end of the cylinder?

[shinbone]

Ken - all good questions . . . but, I don't have access to the gun to inspect it. The cylinder is loaded with both .38 Special and .357 Magnum, which strikes me as odd. I am just wondering if this is an easy fix, or if it is a serious problem requiring significant $$$ to correct. If it is the former, it could be a good deal.

[srgvaz]

Don't buy it.

[shinbone]

Originally Posted by weatherby

I'll opine that it's a smaller cartridge that shouldn't have been put in

That could be true. It almost looks like a .32 Auto round? But what is wedged next to it, then? The cartridge is unfired, whatever it is.

[weatherby]

Originally Posted by srgvaz

Don't buy it.

Why...take a wooden dowel and tap out

[F75gunslinger]

Looks to me to be a deformed case of some type. It isn't completely round. I have No idea why someone would take a pic with the cylinder like that and put it on a for sale site. Then again, I have no idea why I look at so many guns in pics that are filthy. If I am selling something, I clean it up and make it look as good as it can look.

[shinbone]

The case head itself is in remarkably good shape if the case is deformed as much as the photo seems to show.

[weatherby]

I must be looking at a different picture.

I don't see a mashed round.
I see a 357 a 38 special and ? the idiot special.
All with primers intact so none are fired

[WisconsinKen]

Problem I see is the "oddball" round is not fired. If it is jammed in there, unless you are going to drive there to get it, the seller can't ship it.

If shipping is not a problem, but it contingent on inspection and see what the heck is up with the orphan round. I agree, bring a wooden dowel and a mallet in case it needs a little love tap to get it out.

[glenwolde]

A photographic response to the question: "If I can shoot .38 Spl in a .357 can I also shoot .380?"

[Alk8944]

Since there is a NATO symbol on the head it is hard to believe the cartridge deep in the chamber is anything but a NATO standard 9mm Parabellum (9x19, etc!). Shouldn't work, but perhaps someone ran a 9mm through a .38/.357 Carbide Factory Crimp die! Simply knock it out from the front of the cylinder! Why is this supposed to be such a problem?

Just a second thought! It sounds like OP has only seen the picture and has no idea what is going on. What is there about this that makes anyone think the odd case is "jammed" in the charge hole? He doesn't say the gun has been offered for sale or anything else! Why all the assumptions?

"Something jammed in beside it"???? The picture is at an angle, all you are seeing is a reflection on the side of the charge hole!

"A .22", WT****??? What are you people using for eyesight?

[WisconsinKen]

I agree. I'd use it to knock the price down low enough I could put some work into the revolver and still be cash positive.

[shinbone]

It is a Ruger SP101. What would be a reasonably fair offer for a SP101 with this problem, assuming the rest of the gun is in good used condition?

[WisconsinKen]

I have an SP101 and it is built like a mini-panzer tank. If I had to shoot a double powder hand load, I would choose either my SP101 or my GP100. I love my S&W revolvers, but the Ruger revolvers are just massive.

So, I would not anticipate any damage to the cylinder. For pricing, I'd see what you can get that exact model for on GB, and use the case issue as a reason to offer half of what you can buy new for. That should cover anything that comes up.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

[steelslaver]

I bet is 9mm too. I would tap it out with a wooden dowel. I really don't think a brass cartridge would mar or harm the cylinder. Fixing the previous owner would be more difficult than the revolver itself.

[Big Cholla]

Agreed that it is any easy fix with a padded vise and a hardwood dowel and a sharp rap with a light hammer. Given that, I would see just how 'spooked' the owner is and how un-knowledgeable he might be. Low ball the heck out of him telling him that you are willing to "take a big chance". ............ Let us know how it all turns out...... Sometimes this place is better than a soap opera. .........

[srgvaz]

Originally Posted by weatherby

Why...take a wooden dowel an
d tap out

Fair and easy to do, but when buying online and the picture posted indicates a broken or know issue its never that easy. This specimen could be an easy fix, but I've always found these types to be expensive waste of time.

Only my experienced opinion.

[torizus]

The odd ball may be a caliber conversion sleeve for a smaller caliber, I believe that they are more common across the pond but not sure. Being off center suggest rimfire alignment. The 38 and 357 cases may simply be a handloader's limited stock.

[Qball]

Found the ad on "Armslist"

It has to be a joke?


I mean... for real??

[BUFF]

Would you trust a man with feet like that?

[scooter123]

Originally Posted by Alk8944

Since there is a NATO symbol on the head it is hard to believe the cartridge deep in the chamber is anything but a NATO standard 9mm Parabellum (9x19, etc!). Shouldn't work, but perhaps someone ran a 9mm through a .38/.357 Carbide Factory Crimp die! Simply knock it out from the front of the cylinder! Why is this supposed to be such a problem?

BINGO "What is a 9mm Parabellum Alex". This is the correct answer. I too noticed that NATO mark and Alk8944 beat me to it.

[howiema]

Looks to me like a 357 sig round for a semi auto.

Pete

[Pisgah]

No problem with the gun -- the problem is the moron that put a 9mm round in there. A dowel placed against the front of the offending cartridge and given a light tap with a hammer will pop it right out.

[Jack Flash]

The point has been raised that you can't ship it that way (or you sure shouldn't). So if you tell the owner how to correct the problem so he can ship it, don't you lose any bargaining leverage?

Personally, it looks like this one has been in the care of a bozo. Who knows what else he has done to it?

I see used Rugers all the time in gun shops. Is this one such a great deal that it is worth all the "maybes and ifs"?

[H Richard]

Since it is unfired, just push the ejector rod to the rear and tap out the "odd" round. Once again review the NRA safety rules, "Use only ammo you know fits your gun".