Need help finding moon clips to fit my 65-1 357 Mag

seadavis206 · Mar 7, 2016

I don't know where to turn. I bought some moon clips from TK customs that said they fit model 65 but they don't. Its cut for clips. Please see photos and help me find a solution. I talked to S&W and they don't make anything for it. Im out of options. The moon clip in photos are from TK and clearly don't fit

bruner1981 · Mar 7, 2016

Your cylinder is not cut for moon clips. Your cylinder is recessed, which allows for the rear of loose cartridges to sit flush with the rear of the cylinder. For the moon clips to actually work in your gun, the cylinder would have to be sent to TK customs for their clips to fit. However, many people like the recessed cylinders like yours and any modification of it will cause it to lose a lot of value. My recommendation is, if you want to use moon clips, sell this gun, and take the money you get from this gun and the money you would spend getting the cylinder machined and buy one of the new Smiths that accepts moon clips from the factory. But, it's your gun. Do with it as you please.

amazingflapjack · Mar 7, 2016

We have a model 65, and use speed loaders with it-the next best thing to moon clips IMO.

Jackcpat · Mar 7, 2016

Moon clip

I had a not so pretty M-28-2 cut for moon clips by Pinnacle High Performance. No one offered clips for 6 shot N frames, TK Customs stepped up and made them, sent one to Pinnacle and their workmanship was killer. I have atoagree with the other, I would not cut a recessed cylinder that's collectible

Theoak84 · Mar 7, 2016

Ill take that off your hands if you want to buy a gun that uses moon clips!

deyomatic · Mar 7, 2016

That third pic KIND of looks like it is...the first two appear that the ejector is popping out a bit, though.

murphydog · Mar 7, 2016

The moon clip conversion works such that the cartridge rim + clip depth headspaces properly (fits snugly and clears the recoil shield). To accomplish this, the rear cylinder face has to be flat, as in a revolver with counterbored charge holes cannot accept moon clips.

seadavis206 · Mar 7, 2016

Right on guys! I appreciate your help. I thought I was going to have to wait weeks for a response..haha. I always thought recessed cylinders were cut more just around the actual chambers and not what I have here. I have a new 686 ill send in to get cut for moon clips and keep this one as is!!!

Pizza Bob · Mar 8, 2016

murphydog said:
The moon clip conversion works such that the cartridge rim + clip depth headspaces properly (fits snugly and clears the recoil shield). To accomplish this, the rear cylinder face has to be flat, as in a revolver with counterbored charge holes cannot accept moon clips.

I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that a revolver with counterbored charge holes cannot be machined to accept moon clips? I clearly remember TK being able to do this, but there was an additional charge for those revolvers. I was just all over TK's site and can't find a mention of his being capable of him doing this, but I do remember it being offered.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

murphydog · Mar 8, 2016

I think it is technically possible (probably involves more elaborate machining), but what I was saying above was what appeared to be an unmodified recessed cylinder in the photo could not have been one altered to use moon clips.

bruner1981 · Mar 8, 2016

Pizza Bob said:
I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that a revolver with counterbored charge holes cannot be machined to accept moon clips? I clearly remember TK being able to do this, but there was an additional charge for those revolvers. I was just all over TK's site and can't find a mention of his being capable of him doing this, but I do remember it being offered.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

It is entirely possible to have a counterbored cylinder machined to accept moon clips. In theory, it is the exact same procedure as machining a non counterbored cylinder, as a counterbored cylinder is pretty much just a non counterbored cylinder with same extra material. The additional charge makes sense though, as the presence of additional material and the location of the additional material on the cylinder means that the machining cuts must be taken slower and be less shallow cuts as compared to a non counterbored cylinder

Jackcpat · Mar 9, 2016

Moon clips

As I said' I had a M28-2 cut which is a recessed cylnider. You just lose the beauty of a classic handgun. I would not have a cylnider cut if it's on a collectible, use speed loaders.

daddy bear · Mar 10, 2016

I am not famillar with the process or modification. The extractor does not look correct to me. Appears overly large. .??

Jack

Pizza Bob · Mar 11, 2016

daddy bear said:
I am not famillar with the process or modification. The extractor does not look correct to me. Appears overly large. .??

Jack

You are probably looking at the pictures where he has the moon clip laid on the back of the cylinder to demonstrate how they don't "fit" (as was stated - this gun is not machined to accept moon clips).

Adios,

Pizza Bob

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