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Model 34 with 3 inch barrel
I am going to view a Smith Wesson model 34, no dash. It has a 3 inch barrel and diamond grips. Part of my confusion is that it has the standard, not flat, latch. Does this sound right?
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I am more confused by the 3 inch barrel. I have seen 2, 3 1/2 (M43 Airweight and M51 Magnum) and 4 inch; no 3.
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Possibly a 4-inch gun and someone doesn’t know how to measure a revolver barrel…?
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seller claims it is a model 34 no dash. A picture is attached. It looks shorter than a 4" but longer than a 2" barrel that I see in photos online.
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I don't see an adjustable rear sight.
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Looks more like a 30 or 31 than a 34.
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Wouldn’t a rimfire have a frame mounted firing pin, rather than a hammer mounted? #34’s had a Evel Kneviel launch ramp front sight too.
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The one circled in blue is not a Model 34. There is no adjustable rear sight and it lacks the shark fin front sight.
It would help if you had the serial number. Also, is it a .22? Maybe a .32 HE. That would allow a 3 1/4" barrel.
I think it might be an I frame and the extractor rod appears to be barrel shaped, which would lead one to believe it is from before 1947. Unless the picture is misleading. The stocks are post-WWII.
Edit: I see Gil snuck in before me (no adjustable sight).
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I am getting additional photos tonight and will post when I receive them. As always gentlemen thank you for sharing your knowledge.
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The one circled in blue is not a Model 34. There is no adjustable rear sight and it lacks the shark fin front sight.
It would help if you had the serial number. Also, is it a .22? Maybe a .32 HE. That would allow a 3 1/4" barrel.
I think it might be an I frame and the extractor rod appears to be barrel shaped, which would lead one to believe it is from before 1947. Unless the picture is misleading. The stocks are post-WWII.
Edit: I see Gil snuck in before me (no adjustable sight).
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It looks more like a thin barrel Model 36.
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Looks like a 3" 36 to me, or a smudgy 37 though the anodizing is usually black/black vs. the blue/black of blued carbon steel. I guess it could also be a .38 S&W as noted previously.
I'd definitely grab it, most of the 3" J frames I run across are from the 70s and this one looks to be older. I understand they were popular with female police officers at the time.
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Can't give a year without a serial number. EDIT: Never mind. In one of the photos.
This is the one that your seller was saying is a .22? Wow....
It doesn't look to be in very good shape. Not one I'd get, even with my low threshold for cosmetic condition. 3" standard-barrel Chiefs are not all that hard to find.
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Looks to possibly be a 36 or 30-1. The M31 has a square butt.
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It has a five shot cylinder, fixed sights, center fire hammer, and a round but frame. Definitely not a model 34 but most likely a 3” model 36-1. We need to see photos of the right side with the caliber stamp on the barrel, the serial number, and the model number stamp on the frame to be positive.
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All I needed to see is a pic of the gun to verify that is not a model 34. Now, if it was mis-marked it could be marked 34 but it is not a 34.
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When the cylinder notches align with the cylinder flutes it's an indication that there is an odd number (5) of charges holes , the hammer nose pin indicates it's a centerfire.
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It’s a five shot J frame round butt so a Model 32 .38 S&W or a model 36 .38 Spl made between 1966 when the flat latch ended and mid 1968 when the diamond around the grip screw ended.
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It’s a five shot J frame round butt so a Model 32 .38 S&W or a model 36 .38 Spl made between 1966 when the flat latch ended and mid 1968 when the diamond around the grip screw ended.
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Was the model 32 or its variants offered with a 3” barrel?
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His pictures are a pain in the neck to look at, but one of them shows the model number in the yoke cut. It is a Model 36. I'm not going to bother looking again, but the serial number is in the 400,000 range if I recall correctly from yesterday.
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Was the model 32 or its variants offered with a 3” barrel?
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Yes. The .32 models 30 and 31, and the .38 S&W models 32 and 33 were all available with 3” barrels.
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Yeah, you can see the forcing cone in this photo
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Definitely not a M34 - looks like a 38 caliber to me, so almost certainly a M36, 3" 38 special.
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Definitely not a M34 - looks like a 38 caliber to me, so almost certainly a M36, 3" 38 special.
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See my post #21. In one of the other pictures you can see the MOD 36 in the yoke cut.
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Yep, can only be a Mod 36 for two additional reasons alluded to above:
The Model 32/33 .38 S&W serial range for that period of 1966-1968 was only in the low 1XX,XXX range.
The Mod 36 cyl is 1.53" long and fills the cyl window. The .38 S&W cyl on the J frame is only 1.4" long.
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