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I got a flier in today's mail about Amoskeag's November 22 auction. Among the many firearms stimulating my salivary glands is a Model 24-1 44 Special. The photo shows a 4-inch revolver with smooth, rosewood 'football' target stocks, red insert front ramp sight and box!
Anybody know anything about this revolver? I understand all model-marked .44 caliber 1950 Targets are scarce, the -1 variant probably the most scarce.
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I got a flier in today's mail about Amoskeag's November 22 auction. Among the many firearms stimulating my salivary glands is a Model 24-1 44 Special. The photo shows a 4-inch revolver with smooth, rosewood 'football' target stocks, red insert front ramp sight and box!
Anybody know anything about this revolver? I understand all model-marked .44 caliber 1950 Targets are scarce, the -1 variant probably the most scarce.
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09-08-2008, 06:26 PM
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That would go nice with your pre 24 four inch Jeff.
Probably set you back $500 or more eh?
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09-08-2008, 08:43 PM
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Heck, I'd pay $501 for it!
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09-09-2008, 09:02 AM
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Depending on condition I think you would be "Real Lucky" to get it for $500.
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I would say that you would be very lucky to get it for ten times that.
It is probably worth around $10,000.
How many have you seen?
If I add up all that I have heard of it would be less than around ten.
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09-11-2008, 06:55 PM
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So, does anyone really know how scarce this is?
Doc44? SmithNut? Lee? Beuhler?
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In Suprica's last book it shows the 24-1 released in 1960 and the 24-2 released in 1961.
So they only produced the 24-1s for a year or less. We also know that the 1950 Targets didn't sell as well after the 44 Mag was developed.
The 29-1s are rare and i'm sure one of the regulars has a total, or at least a good estimate on the 29-1s that have surfaced.
The 24-1s would be but a fraction of those numbers.
I have seen 24-1s mentioned in books a few times over the years. The 24-2 may very well be like the 16-1, only on paper.
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09-11-2008, 07:57 PM
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As someone who is interested in the "original" -1s, I've never seen one documented in a lot of reading on and off the internet. I wish I could afford it. I say it will sell for $5000-$7500 as a pure guess.
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09-13-2008, 10:56 PM
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Where's Doc44?
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09-14-2008, 08:35 AM
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With a serial number of N313103, "29-1" must have been a typo. It should have been "29-2".
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Originally posted by jeremyws1:
With a serial number of N313103, "29-1" must have been a typo. It should have been "29-2".
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Yup, I sort of breezed over that. They certainly would have made a big deal of the "very rare -1" if it actually was.
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And if our buddy GWimer got ahold of it, you will see the first 1/4 million dollar S&W for sale!!
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So, does anyone really know how scarce this is?
Doc44? SmithNut? Lee? Beuhler?
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Hi guys,
Did not see this in Sept.
Scarce is not the word- RARE is!!
It may well be one-of-a-kind. At any rate, you won't ever see TWO on a table at a gunshow.
Personally, I think it went rather cheap. Did that figure include the juice?
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Lee,
You don't have to tell me how rare a 24-1 is. I wanted it BADLY. I don't like nickel S&Ws, although I have thing for Pintos, and I don't like engraved S&Ws. It was right down my alley except it sold for more than my vehicle is worth...haha. I guessed earlier in this thread that it would go for $5000-$7500 without seeing an estimate. It went for $7250 plus juice. Should I quit my day job to become the next "Purveyor of Fine Smith & Wesson Collectibles"? Of course, I'll have to work on my beard and "being cool" (as my father said)...haha.
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Lee is correct...Very rare, if not one of a kind. The gun was shipped in 1966 and made for Dick Marble, the owner of American Firearms Warehouse. It also may very well be the last Model 24 shipped.
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12-05-2008, 11:54 AM
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Bill, are we going to get to see pictures of it?
Thank you for sharing the Dick Marble connection. I don't know the full Dick Marble story, but I know he is responsible for a few very special S&Ws.
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12-05-2008, 12:55 PM
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Jeremy...I did not bid on the 24-1 as I knew it would sell for much more than I was willing to pay for it.
Dick Marble apparently had "a connection" at S&W and had quite a few special guns built for him. However, they were invoiced as regular models and most will not letter. For example, my Model 29-2 with a 3 1/4-inch barrel and fixed sights letters as a Model 58. Guns with unusual serial numbers (like N3 that is a 29-2, but otherwise a regular gun does letter). I do believe the 24-1 will letter, but since S&W did not invoice by manufacturing variation (-1, -2, -3, etc.), you cannot verify the -1 (or -2 if you wanted to). This is true for all -1 guns, not just this one. If it is stamped MOD. 24-1 in the yoke cut and is properly configured, then it is a 24-1.
Once the "factory connection" was discovered at S&W, appropriate action was taken to stop it and no more "specials" were made. This is the story of Dick Marble that was told to me many years ago.
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Interesting! In my internet research, I found this address for Dick Marble's American Arms Company:
172 Main St
Wareham, MA
I'm sure his proximity to S&W helped with the inside connection.
Also, Mr. Marble must have liked #3. You've mentioned N3 (29-2), but a member of this forum has posted pictures of D3 (10-5), H3 (30-1), M3 (34-1), and J3 (36 no dash). In a different post, he states that the 36 was shipped to American Arms Warehouse on 9/25/1969.
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I was at this auction and handled the gun--as did a jillion other people--the guns were displayed so close to each other that bumps and dings were inevitable. On this same display table, I watched a guy pick up a pristine pre-war 1911, work the action about 10 times, and set it back down (not gently) directly on top of another .45.
Bada-bing!
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Also, Mr. Marble must have liked #3. You've mentioned N3 (29-2), but a member of this forum has posted pictures of D3 (10-5), H3 (30-1), M3 (34-1), and J3 (36 no dash). In a different post, he states that the 36 was shipped to American Arms Warehouse on 9/25/1969.
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Jeremy, N3, shipped 3/71 to Marble..
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Congratulations, Jeremy! That is a gorgeous gun. If I could only keep one handgun, it might be my 4 inch pre-model marked 1950 Target. Mine has the same rosewood Target stocks, red insert front and white outline rear sights.
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BUFF, I definitely didn't "win" the 24-1. I would love to have it, but my pockets aren't nearly that deep. Plus, it's about time for me to begin my new hobby, engagement ring hunting...haha.
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With the buyer's premium, the 24-1 sold for approximately $8,500. If a dealer bought it and plans to resell it for a decent profit, I expect it may be seen at a few gun shows in the future. If a collector bought it, maybe we'll see it in a display of variations of the 1950 Target 44.
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Lee is correct...Very rare, if not one of a kind. The gun was shipped in 1966 and made for Dick Marble, the owner of American Firearms Warehouse. It also may very well be the last Model 24 shipped.
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I would have been 2 years old in '66! Dick Marble is my father, and I find these post interesting because that was so long ago, long before the internet, and here is talk of American Arms and my father.
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