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01-13-2009, 01:22 PM
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I keep hearing this brought up and would like to know if this is more of a collector's issue or a issue of serviceability.
Is there and advantage of pinned and recessed?
Thanks in advance for the education.
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01-13-2009, 01:22 PM
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I keep hearing this brought up and would like to know if this is more of a collector's issue or a issue of serviceability.
Is there and advantage of pinned and recessed?
Thanks in advance for the education.
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01-13-2009, 02:35 PM
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It is just becasue that is the way it was and they do not make them any more.
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The P&R guns were the originals. The recessed chambers are superfluous with todays brass quality being what it is. They do look nicer!
This is the Smith forum, everyone wants to own an original style at least once. 
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01-13-2009, 03:17 PM
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Pinned and recessed recall the old days of hand fit and finish that many here lament as being replaced by mass production machine manufacturing. In reality recessing adds nothing to a gun's performance(.22 caliber excepted of course). The need for a pinned barrel went away with a manufacturing change in 1957 even though it was kept for many years after that.
I very much like a pinned and recessed gun over one that is not but neither is a criteria for me in purchasing a given gun.
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01-13-2009, 03:23 PM
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The pinned barrel was more exact in setting barrel cylinder gap.now they are just swedged in so people like us cannot switch barrels.
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What???
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01-13-2009, 03:26 PM
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When S&W first switched from pinned barrels, I remember the new process being described as "crushing" the barrels on by compressing their threads....
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01-13-2009, 04:27 PM
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Thank you all for your feedback.
I have shot Smiths since late sixty's and since it was my first it is the best. Despite some bumps in the S&W road.
My first Smith was a Victory model that had been nickeled. It was issued to me on my first day as police officer. It would not fire.
I went to Macon, GA and bought a new Model 28 4" for $98.00 including a box of ammo.
I dated a lot but am wed to the Smith.
Thanks again.
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I did not know that!
I've swapped out barrels for years, no decades.
Crush fit? WTH? Could that be an interferance fit of the barrel shoulder to the frame face or maybe the class of threads, or pitch dia.? I don't recall any crush, pressed on, swaged fits with Colts, Rugers or any others. Gees
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Dave, the people who keep repeating this have no clue about thread design.
If modern, non-pinned S&Ws had interference fit threads (I forget the exact class, I'll have to look in my Machinery Handbook tomorrow at work), NO ONE could rebarrel them. Ever.
S&W barrels use conventional threads just like every other freaking rifle out there made in the last 150 years or so.
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The pinned barrel was more exact in setting barrel cylinder gap.now they are just swedged in so people like us cannot switch barrels.
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S&W barrels use conventional threads just like every other freaking rifle out there made in the last 150 years or so.
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Wyatt, your right, the thread pitch and pitch dia. has stayed the same, at least the years I've been monkeyin' with them. Why, just last month I put a 24-3 barrel on a pre model 20 38/44 HD with a Model 28 cyl. that had been re-chambered to .44spl c'bored (recessed) chambers and all. Had to do some mill work on the ramp & sight blade. She shoots like a house on fire too boot.
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Now that is COOOOOOL!!!!
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Pinned and recessed was S&W's way of making their revolvers for years, one day they decided they could save money and simplify manufacture by eliminating that feature. Colt never did it.
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I keep hearing this brought up and would like to know if this is more of a collector's issue or a issue of serviceability.
Is there and advantage of pinned and recessed?
Thanks in advance for the education.
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