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Air soluble springs, how many times and what guns are they really bad in.
I just picked up a mdl 27 no dash and it needed to be cleaned out inside, so I disassembled it real carefully(I've done it before), and low and behold one of the springs, the hand torsion spring, has disapeared(desolved into thin air).
Midway says it is 90 days for one of these and my local FFL says he has that problem too and will have more in on Wednesday. Think I'll get some extra.
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Air soluble springs, how many times and what guns are they really bad in.
I just picked up a mdl 27 no dash and it needed to be cleaned out inside, so I disassembled it real carefully(I've done it before), and low and behold one of the springs, the hand torsion spring, has disapeared(desolved into thin air).
Midway says it is 90 days for one of these and my local FFL says he has that problem too and will have more in on Wednesday. Think I'll get some extra.
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10-17-2008, 04:08 PM
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Did you try looking in Numrich. Dont know if the spings are the same for the different -'s but they have them in stock for a -3 for $1.45.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/productsch...odel=1980z27-3
Good luck,
Roger
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10-17-2008, 07:34 PM
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I think there is a warp in the space-time continuum through which firearm springs slip into a parallel universe. This also explains why I occasionally discover parts I would swear I didn't have. John
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Thanks sg, I have used them before and will again.
But what I wanted to know was how many of you fellow enthusiasts have had this happen to you.
Just got the feeling that it is a rampant occurrence amoung us.
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10-17-2008, 07:43 PM
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John, Thats what I tell the wife when she sees a gun she does not remember! lol
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Happened to me last weekend. The spring off of my Cimarron Lighting .38 Special that controls the hand went "fling!" and I hear it hit some papers on the right side of my reloading bench. Now the right side of my reloading bench is full of papers, boxes of empty cases, gun boxes, "stuff", and more "stuff". So I carefully cleaned the area in question one piece at a time to find the tiny spring. Nothing. So then I went to the floor under the bech which also has a lot of "stuff". About an hour later I was done and no spring.
I returned the "stuff" to its places and some of it had been sitting on the portion of the bench where I had originally done the deed. I was resigned to ordering new springs [plural to insure I had extras] and found the spring attached to my magnetic screwdriver.
I think it was in the pile of "stuff" and when I moved it back it fell onto the magnetic screwdriver.
Thank you Lord and thank you Brownells for magnetic screwdrivers.
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10-18-2008, 04:30 AM
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when i order those tiny parts for my s&w's i always get two or three of each. they do seem to disappear like magic!
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10-18-2008, 05:22 AM
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When disassembling any gun with small parts or springs that tend to fly off and find the nearest wormhole to the otherside of the galaxy, I use a large gallon or bigger zip lock bag to work in. Saves a lot of trouble.
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10-18-2008, 05:35 AM
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Just happened to me Wed, cleaning my 1100 Rem.
Took the barrel off( thumb on retaining thingy for the tube spring) sat the barrel down, took my thumb off and POOF- retainer , spring and plug launched into the abyss of my back yard.
I found the spring retainer( little bigger than a quarter and BLACK) still no sign of the tube spring( 2 feet long)and plug. The plug was bright ORANGE.
My vote is for the space-time continuum theory.
Same thing with my L1A1 and recoil nut, found it 2 years later just sitting on the patio deck.
Differently a problem with the ordinary time interval, perhaps the speed of the spring being released exceeds the distance of time that it is traveling, thus changeing the interval space at the present which in turn allows it to enter into the 4th dimensional continum.
I'm going out back to look for that tube spring again, maybe your spring knock my spring back into the present.
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10-18-2008, 05:41 AM
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I'v got a little one that simply "appeared" on my bench, right out of thin air.
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10-18-2008, 07:27 AM
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Boy, you must have been doing one very complete "Cleaning" to have had that particular Spring simply disappear!!!
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Gosh, I bet that's where the rear sight windage detente and spring went on the last one I changed. Guess I'll quit looking on my shop floor.
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10-18-2008, 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by TwoPoundPull:
I'v got a little one that simply "appeared" on my bench, right out of thin air.
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That's it please send it home. LOL
As far as the time warp thinking goes, yes I'm a believer!
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Well, I've already determined that the socks that have gone missing in the dryer have morphed into wire hangers in the closet.
If I could find out what household object the various springs and such that have evaporated on me were changed into, maybe I could reverse the process.
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I can't remember whether one has ever actually dissolved, but if so, it was from behind the bolt (what the thumbpiece is screwed to). Or was that on a C***? Anyway, I usually remember to use a plastic bag, now, but I certainly do like pownal55 does.
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Brilliant description.
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I think the Faeries take them!
I disassembled my new to me Colt Delta Elite to see if it needed to be cleaned.
Boiing! The spring took of WITH the firing pin! I calculated the angle it took off in and my wife and I spent about an hour looking for it. We searched the shelving and scrutinized the floor (it is tile) with a flashlight all to no avail. We looked for several days on and off.
Finally, in desperation, I ordered a new pin and spring from Brownells. During the week or so I was waiting, I still looked from time to time for the old one.
Finally the new set arrives and as I am sitting in the living room putting them into the slide, my wife comes in from the garage and hands me the old ones saying, "Is this what we have been lookig for?"
She found it OUT IN THE OPEN on the tile floor where we had BOTH looked for it SEVERAL times. No way was it there all that time without our seeing it.
Yep, the Faeries take them...and sometimes they bring them back!
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That happened to me with my model 317. I called S&W to order a replacement and in two days it was in my mailbox free of charge. I bought a 617 a few weeks ago and one of the reasons I did is the excellent support from S&W I experienced. I read a lot of great things about the 617 and am finding they are all true. It’s a great gun.
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