Yet another M627-PC UDR/Blood Work question - Old vs New

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I know that the original is a grail gun for a lot of us but I'm curious about how the new version has affected that status, especially considering that there will only ever be 302 originals and now this new gun is readily available and less expensive.

So I'm looking for opinions - Do you guys think that the introduction of the new "second generation" M627-3 has diminished or increased the value and desirability of the original M627-PC UDR/Blood Work guns and why?
 
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I think the only thing that has decreased the value of my 1st generation Blood Work gun is that I shoot and carry it often...and don't keep it too clean.

I don't see how the later versions of any model S&W's with the IL decreases the value of the older models. Maybe it does, but not for me.

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I bought mine with the intention of carrying and shooting it. I have, but not much. I would think that it has decreased the value somewhat, but I'm sure the economic situation has also had an affect. I have not seen the new ones in person, but I would be tempted to buy one and deactivate the lock, and carry it instead of the original.
 
The original ones will always be the original.
I think that the new ones will drive down the value of the original ones somewhat.
I have a NIB original, that I just cannot bring myself to shoot. Actually I had given up on finding an original one, and bought the newer version. A few months later I came across the NIB original.
I have shot the newer one, and carry it often. I like it.:D
 
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Thanks for your thoughts guys. I've got my eye out for an original but haven't seen any for sale in a while. Everyone that's bought the 2.0 version seems very happy with them so it made me wonder about the effect on the market.
 
Are all the Bloodwork revolvers as special the 627 PC? I have the opportunity to purchase a NIB original 629 PC and just was wondering if I should jump on it. The only thing I don't like about is that it's chambered for .44MAG.
 
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Are all the Bloodwork revolvers as special the 627 PC? I have the opportunity to purchase a NIB original 629 PC and just was wondering if I should jump on it. The only thing I don't like about is that it's chambered for .44MAG.

For me the .44 Mag chambering would be the selling point.
I find a .44 snubby to be the perfect carry gun for me.


Jim
 
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The 627 PC (ultimate defense revolver) will always bring more than the 629 PC. I have noticed some really good buys on the 629 PC models.
They both are excellent revolvers, and I would not let the 44 caliber stand in your way.
 
The original should hold value, they are unique in that there is no lock, and no engraved "performanc center" logo on the right side of the barrel. Also, C&L, is the backstrap grooved, or am I seeing things?
I guess a .44 is OK if you can manage it, but the real charm of the Blood Work gun is the 8 shots of .357 Magnum.
 
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10 grooves on the back strap! THAT alone makes them two notches above the current edition. And no lock..............
(Not that the lock keeps me from buying, just would rather not have it, and soon I won't.......keeping the gun, not the lock)
 
The Eagle boots that were made to fit that transitional N-frame round butt just don't fit the current N-frame gripframes, which have a larger radii behind the trigger guard. Modern grips will fit that older gripframe, but not the other way. So - S&W still supplies either old stock grips - or new grips made to the old specs - but that 4/10 purchased PC627 UDR had gaps at the front top of the boot grips - and so did the replacements it took them a month to return to me. Additionally, they sent me a grip screw that was 1/4" too long! Skip ahead... I love the PC627 UDR - it's a bargain - MSRP today: $1,185 - 1999 MSRP: $1,199! It comes with a plastic grey PC gun case in lieu of the Al/plastic PC case and the IL - and it's cheaper. Go figure.

Oh - today found me at the pusher's... and I was going to buy a 327NG for a 'house gun' extraordinaire - they aren't moonclip ready - and weigh exactly 10 oz less than the PC627 UDR. I bought another PC627 UDR instead. And, new, with s/t, it was <$15 more than the 327NG! I did quite well, too - great trigger - shadow rings on four of the eight cylinder exits. Never looked at the grips in the store - same gaps!! Crap!! Call to S&W - a pickup label is 'on the way' - as are some moonclips (May have been requisitioned at the Pusher's...).

My gripe... a $1,200 revolver - from the Performance Center - shouldn't make it out the door with such ill-fitted grips! I am now 0 for 2 in their PC627 UDR's. The dealer laughed - they said none they've received fit - not even the PC629 UDR's! The PC627 UDR's are terrific revolvers, however, and - for the use this one will see, like it's sibling, it will get larger grips. And, I don't care how many FEDEX labels/trips their grips take, they will get me some OEM grips that fit... just 'because'.

Stainz
 
Interesting that the second generation UDR's are lacking in so many areas. It seems S&W is eager to cash in on the name and interest in the original but aren't willing to produce a gun with the same attention to detail.
 
'lacking in so many areas'???

Seriously - my beef was on the Eagle-made boot grip - made to fit the early gripframes - not a S&W made item. The revolvers were perfect - possessed great triggers upon arrival. I hated my first PC revolver's cheesy metal case - all zero's opened every combination lock, too. The IL is unsightly - but a fact of life. I'm a realist - in nine plus years of making IL-equipped revolvers, they haven't lost a dime on a lawsuit over it or it's 'failure'. I like new S&W's - and buy what I can afford. Feel free to buy old S&W's - but don't berate something you likely haven't seen or touched.

I wanted a PC627 UDR for ten years - wouldn't buy one when they first came out - folks kept close to that original $1,199 MSRP. The current ones $1,185 MSRP is frequently discounted. Even from my local Ma/Pa pusher, I 'only' paid $949 for the early one and $889 for yesterday's. The last original one I saw was at a show - several years back - and, obviously quite used (holster wear), it was more than the sum of what my new pair cost. I'd rather have my pair. Of course, I'm an acquirer/user - not a collector. The current version is a fine revolver... and those Eagle boots are too small for my mitts, anyway!

Stainz
 
Okay.
Guess I misunderstood your post, it sounded like you were complaining about the newer gun compared to the original. I'm not berating anything, I was commenting on what you were saying (how it sounded to me anyway).

And you're right, I haven't seen or touched either the new or the old versions, that's why I'm asking what people think and why.

As far as old vs new S&W's, I prefer the look of the prelock guns but I don't let the lock stand in the way if I like one of the newer models. I love my 586 L-Comp, which has the lock, and you've probably seen the 360J I used for my 9mm snubby project, it also has a lock. The lock is really a non-issue for me except when talking about asthetics, the collectibility, or the value of a prelock gun vs a postlock version of the same gun.
 
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My S&W's of choice border on the weird. Some years ago I sold a LNIB safe queen 6.5" 24-3 and a similar, but new, Heritage 24... and replaced them with a 6" 629-6 (Current production!) - for .44 Specials. I later replaced my 629MG with a new production 4" 629-6 - and my 696 now languishes! I like 'users' - and the current PC627 UDR is a 'user' of the first order.

I am sorry if I came off a bit harsh - I didn't want ruffled feathers anywhere - just to state that the current version of the UDR is a fine shooter.

Stainz
 
The Eagle boot grips pictured on mine fit great. But the Spegels or ugly Pachmayrs feel much better than the original to these guns Eagle grips...or stocks, whatever.

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Stainz - You have two now. You must really like them as do I.
Does your newer one have the un fluted cylinder? Just curious.

On the grips that come on these, they are made in India. As stated above, they are not made by S&W. They are the same grips that were on the original revolvers, thus they do not fit exactly right. Other than that, they are fine revolvers, my favorite.:D
 
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