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12-11-2010, 04:52 PM
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4 inch, round butt 19 or 66
Just how rare is such a critter?
I think I want one but am afraid it would be next to impossible to find.
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12-11-2010, 04:56 PM
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I have only seen one model 19(don't remember the dash) pre-lock with the round butt in 4 inch. I bought it, but later sold it. The letters "SCSO" were stamped on the frame and I figured it was a special order for some county's "Sheriffs Office" but that is just a guess. All of the 2 1/2 inch models were round butts but I think the 4 inchers are rare, or had barrel changes.
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12-11-2010, 04:57 PM
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The very latest production 19s and 66s (1996 on) were all RB. There may be earlier ones that were special runs, or you can assemble one.
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12-11-2010, 06:28 PM
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The 19-7 range is where the switch to RB for all barrel lengths happened... the dash switchover happened in '94, and the Delete Square Butt happened '95-'96. The 19-8 is the MIM pre-lock, all of those are RB's, and those were introduced in 1998. M19 discontinued in Nov 1999. So no such animal as a 19 with a lock, and anything produced '96-'99 should have a round butt, so it may not be a totally futile search.
In a model 66, you're looking for a later -4 or any -5. Those are probably the easiest to find.
All this is per SCS&W.
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12-11-2010, 06:48 PM
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Thanks, Charles. I have a SCSW on my wish list for Christmas.
And there just happens to be a 4" 66-5 in my state on GB currently going for 313.25. But with 6 bids so far I figure it'll run way up before it sells.
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12-11-2010, 07:17 PM
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This not-rare-at-all 66-5 has a heavy barrel and a round butt. Joe
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I have a Model 19-5 four-inch Round Butt--not "Pinned and Recessed", but Firing Pin on the Hammer and NO "MIM"--that was supposedly one of a "Run" of guns for the US Dept. of State. No idea on the number of those guns produced or their VALUE, but it IS a nice variation. Hope this helps. Paulie686.
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Model 19's aren't that rare that I would feel bad about getting an ex-PD 4" and having a custom shop round-butt it.
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12-12-2010, 03:11 AM
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S&W 19-4 78K49XX round butt rebarrelled from 2 1/2" to 4"
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Making the K and L frame round butt standard is the best move S&W ever made!
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Paulie,
Your 19-5 (R/B) was a run that the Department of State specified for DSS and the Marines overseas at our Embassies and Consulates General.
I would presume yours has a serial prefix of AYY####? They were the ones we had in the 90s overseas.
They were finished in a 400-600 grit "Service Blue" and had a plain black front sight with no white outline rear. Many of us changed out the Magna grip panels for R/B Hogues or Uncle Mike's grips.
We carried/qualified with the now-discontinued Federal 125gr NYCLAD HP +P. It was a great round that opened-up and was easy to shoot, even though it was travelling about 950 fps. Very accurate.
I saw one of these guns several years ago on Gun Broker, but passed when the price was over $850. Whoever was selling it, knew what they had.
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It isn't expensive to have a square butt converted to round, but does anyone know how nice they are? Cylinder & Slide does it.
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02-18-2015, 11:58 AM
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I took a new early issue, 2 1/2" M-66 back in the 70's and had a four inch barrel installed. Had a sweet set of Farrant stocks on it (that I wish I STILL had) and ahd the acction worked over.
Great carry piece for that time. Ended up selling it and moving on to a Colt Commander in .45 acp. That carried a lot easier.
I have seen several RB, four inch guns over the years. I'd hazard a guess that the majority were reworks like mine.
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