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Those non-black Mika holsters are cool!
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My wife's favorite Mika color combination is black on red & I know that there are two of those in the mix around here somewhere.
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It's Friday - my new SKU #178046 2" 632 should be at the new pusher's this afternoon. It's been a long time since I first called S&W about this revolver's availability (2/10!). My last call was in July - they told me it should be produced in August - to which I asked, 'Which August?'.
What is considered a fair price for this revolver? I know it's MSRP went from $916 in the 2010 catalog to $809 currently on their site. No matter - this one has been long awaited - anticipated. Good grief, it wasn't that long ago all I bought were N-frames. This will be the third J-frame in a year, my 3" 63 & 3" 60 Pro having proceeded it. Oops - I forgot my last two gun purchases - an M&P 15 Sport and the Governor... what a year! I am through - for quite a while.
Fortunately, I have 800-1,000 .32 S&WL homebrews left over from my Ruger .32 H&RM 4" SP-101 & 4.6" SS days. Maybe Santa will bring me another set of .32 dies! They - all my unloaded .32 brass - and a bunch of reloading supplies - went with the Rugers (They didn't want the loaded .32 S&WL) three plus years ago. Yeah, everyone said I would 'be back' in that caliber... it was fun! How many more hours??? Anticipation...
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Yeah, what I'd like is my new 3" 63 - in .327 Mag - or even my 3" 60 Pro in .327 Mag. The HiViz front sight, a la the3" 63, is a better deal for me, too. I waited from early last year to Thanksgiving for that 3" 63... I thought it was slow in 'coming out'. I guess it will eventually get here.
I bet it will look and feel better - my 3" 63 sure did - with a set of 60 Pro grips - see it and my 60 Pro:
I never thought I'd find true happiness in anything smaller than a 4" N-frame... oops!
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Might I ask who made the grips? S&W or someone else....
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09-16-2011, 11:50 AM
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Certainly... you may ask... but I don't know who makes them for S&W. They are available from S&W (1-800-331-0852) as SKU #411740000 '60 Pro' grips. They were a steal - $42.97 + s/h. Sometimes they are out of stock - and you migh have to wait a few weeks. They are worth the wait. I put a set on my 5" 63, too, early this year. I may just have to 'borrow' them for the new 632... it won't mind - it was a great fit/feel with the square conversion rubber Hogues it wore previously. Besides... I am about to become very poor... but I'll have a new toy! I hope it enjoys my wimpy 96gr LRNFP .32 S&WL loads...
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You tipped me over. I just ordered on from Bud's. Great write up, thanks.
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In an effort to provide a little more info. before this thread scrolls off into the archives here is the 632-2 wearing it's carry grips & some of the holsters my wife will be using with it.
With Crimson Trace LG-405 P20 Grips.
The P20 designates Chestnut (colored) Grip Panels on regular LG-405's, which have black panels.
Below in Mernickle Cross-Draw Holster........
This next photo shows it in a Mika (round cut) Pocket Holster with a Mika square cut PH next to it for holster comparison purposes.
This last photo shows it with the popular 642 Airweight.
As a point of reference the Grips are the same size so that may help in overcoming the fact that the 632 is closer to the camera than the 642.
It's time to load this puppy up and perform the "official hand-off ceremony" with my wife being on the receiving end.......
Edited to add: The "ceremony" is now over and while loading up the 632 I thought that there may be some who are not familiar with the different rounds it's capable of firing so I put some together real quick.
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.32 S&W LRN (Lead Round Nose), .32 S&W Long LRN,
.32 H&R Magnum JHP (jacketed hollow point) & .327 Federal Magnum JHP.
That's all Folks!
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You tipped me over. I just ordered one from Bud's. Great write up, thanks.
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Thanks Jim! You know what they say when it comes to S&W's, "The more the Merrier!!"
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09-17-2011, 05:52 AM
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Sadness... my new dealer didn't pick up my 632 Friday (... must be getting it from Bangers in Birmingham.) - guess it'll be Monday. Sigh. What's another three days when it's been nearly a year and a half since it was announced? It'll seem like an eternity!
Still wondering what a 'good' street price should be.
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That is a cool gun. I like the barrel fluting. A 3" K frame version with exposed hammer in .357 mag would be perfect....but I will have to keep dreaming I guess.
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What we need is a K frame now!!
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09-20-2011, 12:39 AM
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What we need is a K frame now!!
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One can only hope.......
A forum member recently mentioned that there might be a lightweight J up next.
My plan is to wait for an 8-shot L Frame, but a K would be oh so much sweeter!!
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Stainz,As for street price I checked with my local dealer about ordering one and he quoted me a price of $621.00. I was hoping to see your range report before ordering one. So when you do get it let us know how it shoots.
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It's Friday - my new SKU #178046 2" 632 should be at the new pusher's this afternoon. It's been a long time since I first called S&W about this revolver's availability (2/10!). My last call was in July - they told me it should be produced in August - to which I asked, 'Which August?'.
What is considered a fair price for this revolver? I know it's MSRP went from $916 in the 2010 catalog to $809 currently on their site. No matter - this one has been long awaited - anticipated. Good grief, it wasn't that long ago all I bought were N-frames. This will be the third J-frame in a year, my 3" 63 & 3" 60 Pro having proceeded it. Oops - I forgot my last two gun purchases - an M&P 15 Sport and the Governor... what a year! I am through - for quite a while.
Fortunately, I have 800-1,000 .32 S&WL homebrews left over from my Ruger .32 H&RM 4" SP-101 & 4.6" SS days. Maybe Santa will bring me another set of .32 dies! They - all my unloaded .32 brass - and a bunch of reloading supplies - went with the Rugers (They didn't want the loaded .32 S&WL) three plus years ago. Yeah, everyone said I would 'be back' in that caliber... it was fun! How many more hours??? Anticipation...
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i pick up my 632-2 today.
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09-20-2011, 10:14 AM
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Still waiting on mine. Love to see your range report.
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I picked mine up yesterday. I borrowed the '60 Pro' grips from my 5" 63 and put them on my new 632. Here it is with the 3" 63 and 60 Pro, all with the '60 Pro' grips.
The trigger, in DA, is great - about as good as the 60 Pro - and it's already got quite a few rounds through it and the springs were changed. The 632 is new - and stock - and will get better. Of course, SA shooting will be difficult...
Range report. I am watching the Intellicast radar - and the flood here. If it quits for a while, I will try to get to the local club range - if the mire permits egress. As dark as it is, those night sights may be handy! Otherwise, I'll get an early start in the AM - I hope - and trek to the other range across town. I have 600+ 96gr LRNFP .32 S&WL homebrews - probably anemic as everything. I am anxious to see where they hit...
Me, anxious??
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Yesterday's range trip proved the folly of shooting ammo that made 605 +/-11 fps from a 4" SP101 some five plus years ago in the 632 Pro. I had to aim 4" high - at 12yd - to even hit the ~5" steel plates - which barely moved. Still, as I have not been able to find .327 Magnum ammo in stock locally, it'll have to do until my ordered 85gr Fed .327M's, both the SP and JHP, arrive next week.
A call to S&W CS revealed that the trigger pull in DAO revolvers, like my 632 Pro, must be 10+ lb - their edict - assumed to be for 'safety'. Also, the sights were regulated for .327 Magnums, no weight given, at 7 yd. As it is equipped, the front Tritium Night Sight is .239" tall, while the rear sight is .236" tall. Their respective bases appear to be at the same height above the bore axis - this means the revolver's bore axis is aimed below the sight's line line of sight. Translated to 12yd, assuming no muzzle rise during recoil, that would translate to <.5" low, if the sight bases are at the same level. Obviously, that doesn't account for the 3-4 inch drop I found.
I will shoot from sandbags at paper - at 7 yd - and re-evaluate. Oops - call back from S&W - they want the gun back - with my results - pre-paid FEDEX label in-bound. More later.
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632-2 Barrel Alignment
I had special ordered a 632-2 from my dealer last week, and it came in yesterday. I went in to pick it up today and was pretty excited. After a quick inspection, I found that the barrel was canted to left of the receiver; the front night sight as a result leans to the left. This is the second occurrence that I am aware of with this problem as noted in this thread. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I would have thought that the S&W QC would have caught this before shipping it from the factory; this shouldn't happen with a $700.00 gun.
I currently own 11 S&W revolvers and many before these, but I have never had a problem like this. Is this a new trend with S&W?
I have a very customer friendly dealer who ordered a replacement for me and is returning the other one. Unfortunately, I will have to wait another week to receive my 632-2.
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Oldman, I just went and edited my "barrel cant" post to accurately reflect that the barrel on the one I passed on was also canted to the left and not the right as I had previous posted.
I called it out as right because I was checking it out from the front of the gun and not, as I should have been, from the frame-side. On that gun I never got that far, seen the cant from the front and that was that........
When I made that post I was still a little ticked. In addition to trying to "stick me with the bad one" the dealer had increased the price by $10, in spite of the fact that the MSRP dropped considerably from the time it hit the S&W web-site early in 2010, when I put $$ down on one, to when it was released.......
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Tired of waiting for the 632 Pro, I bought a Taurus .327 mag. in June and I enjoy shooting it.
Last week I saw the 632 was finally available and I ordered one from CheaperThanDirt immediately.
I picked it up today and the barrel is canted to the left. $689 spent
after waiting well over a year and now it has to be returned for S&W to get it right.
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I got to wonder if getting the barrel not straight is over torquing or under?? Heck I got a big pipe wrench, won't that fix this problem. I would be pretty ticked off too that the store would try to sell the bad one instead of sending it back themselves!!
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I got to wonder if getting the barrel not straight is over torquing or under?? Heck I got a big pipe wrench, won't that fix this problem. I would be pretty ticked off too that the store would try to sell the bad one instead of sending it back themselves!!
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Yeah, first the price issue then the canted barrel. After thinking about this some more I believe they checked the few they got in and decided to "stick me with the bad one" because I had money down on one, so, in their minds, it was already a done deal........
So far, here in the forums, we've heard of three 632-2's with the canted barrel issue, which makes you wonder just what kind of "job instructions" the S&W employees are working under.
Heck, it's not like the customer isn't going to notice that their front sight is crooked / canted. The front sight is one of the things that tends to get looked at the most, at least when the gun is in use, and when you factor in that it plays a role in how the gun performs it should be one of those things that needs to be just right.
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the barrel on mine is fine.
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If you are a fan of Buffalo Bore ammo, of which I am one, or if you're just looking for a few more choices when it comes to .327 Federal Mag, BB now has two .327 offerings.
You can find detailed information on their web-site under new products.
One is a 100 gr. JHP rated @ 1,450 fps (sku 37A/20)
And the other is a 130 gr. Hard Cast Keith bullet rated @ 1,300 fps (sku 37B/20)
Based on what BB said earlier this year there may be yet another .327 round in the offing.....
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New Arrival -Terrific!
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Has anyone shot their new 2" 632-2 at paper?
At 7yd, mine was 3+ inches low - with 85gr Fed JHP and 85gr SP alike in .327 Magnum. It was ~2.5" low with my wimpy 96gr LRNFP loads in .32 S&WL - probably 600fps. They all seem to have the same short front and rear Night Sights - the rear needs ~.050 inches more height to correct for this - the front is about as low as practical. I will try not setting the 6 o'clock position of the bullseye at level dots, but raise the center dot to half a diameter (~.102 inch) above the rear dots and try again - maybe today.
I didn't expect a target gun - but 3+ inches low at 7 yd is pretty poor. S&W did e-mail me a return label... I think I'll wait a bit. Fun shooter - aggravating accuracy.
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Hay Stainz,
My 632-2 is right on with 115 grain Gold Dots and just a little low with Federal 100 grain soft points at 25 feet. I wonder what bullet S&W used to check out these guns?
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A few more Comps - 632-2 vs. 637CT
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Good comparative photos, thanks for sharing.
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Good comparative photos, thanks for sharing.
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Here is one last set that compares the S&W632-2 vs. SigP239:
The S&W632-2 is definitely taking regular walk with me.
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I had special ordered a 632-2 from my dealer....I found that the barrel was canted to left of the receiver; the front night sight as a result leans to the left...I have a very customer friendly dealer who ordered a replacement for me and is returning the other one....
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I received my 632 replacement today, and the barrel was straight and everything appears to be in order. I need to get it to the range, weather permiting, this week.
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Are the barrels solid or sleeved on these?
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I like every aspect of the revolver, but like most J Frames it needs trigger work. The barrel is solid S.S.
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At 7yd, mine was 3+ inches low - with 85gr Fed JHP and 85gr SP alike in .327 Magnum. It was ~2.5" low with my wimpy 96gr LRNFP loads in .32 S&WL - probably 600fps. They all seem to have the same short front and rear Night Sights - the rear needs ~.050 inches more height to correct for this - the front is about as low as practical. I will try not setting the 6 o'clock position of the bullseye at level dots, but raise the center dot to half a diameter (~.102 inch) above the rear dots and try again - maybe today.
I didn't expect a target gun - but 3+ inches low at 7 yd is pretty poor. S&W did e-mail me a return label... I think I'll wait a bit. Fun shooter - aggravating accuracy.
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Three dot combat night sights are not designed for a 6 o'clock bullseye sight picture. Those sights will require a combat sight picture.
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My other S&W fixed sight revolvers, including a 2" 10, 4" 64, 2.5" 296, & 1 7/8" 642, hit POA with a typical 6 o'clock picture at 12 yd with my SD ammo (GA Arms 200gr Gold Dots in .44 Special and 158gr +P LHPSWC Remington R38S12 in .38 Special).
That said, this AM I tried a three dot 'combat' target aim with the 632 - central dot coaxial with the bullseye and between rear orbs. With 85gr Fed SP in .327 Magnum, the hits were centered nearly 1.5" low - a bit lower with the 96gr LRNFP .32 S&WL loads. With Speer 115gr Gold Dots in .327 Magnum, all six shots were within the 1.75" bullseye circle - centered just below the center - hand held at 7 yd. I have found it's 'proper' ammo!
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I had to travel to FT Hood for training (to learn how to work on a computer that I used for six months already). I stopped off at the Post Exchange and they have a gun counter. I asked the fella if he could order a 632 for me. It turns out someone was asking about it already, and Gallery of Guns has them listed available so he is going to get two hopefully. I will find out tommorow!!
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Peyton, you'll like the 632 Pro! Mine is off my poop list now that I know it's ammo choices (115gr Speer Gold Dots in .327 Mag.). I even bought something for it Saturday at the AGCA show in Birmingham - a $10 IWB soft leather 3" J-frame holster. It fits the 632 Pro fine - but not my 3" 63 & 60 Pro - go figure.
I likely won't order shellplate, dies, etc, for my 550 - I included my old ones with my .32 Ruger sale 3.5 years ago. This is my only .32 now. It's preferred ammo is $20/20 at a local shop - pricey, but affordable for PD ammo. Let us know what you think of yours when it arrives.
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Good to learn that the 632-2 prefers Gold Dot. I am waiting for mine to return from a trigger job and will try it out.
Nice grips and Protech, side by side.
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Peyton, you'll like the 632 Pro! Mine is off my poop list now that I know it's ammo choices (115gr Speer Gold Dots in .327 Mag.). I even bought something for it Saturday at the AGCA show in Birmingham - a $10 IWB soft leather 3" J-frame holster. It fits the 632 Pro fine - but not my 3" 63 & 60 Pro - go figure.
I likely won't order shellplate, dies, etc, for my 550 - I included my old ones with my .32 Ruger sale 3.5 years ago. This is my only .32 now. It's preferred ammo is $20/20 at a local shop - pricey, but affordable for PD ammo. Let us know what you think of yours when it arrives.
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I can get the 632 for $715.00 OTD, what say yee?? I see that Buds has them for $649.00 but that will be sight unseen.
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Bought mine at Bud's. Avoided tax and had it in 7 days.
Terrific revolver.
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A small local shop got mine for me for $704 otd, inc a surcharge for plastic use (Debit card - my checkbook was 14 miles away. Yeah, my impatience cost me $18!). He picked it up from Bangers across town that AM. After 18 months of waiting, I quickly drove over to pick it up. Yep - $715 otd is good. Congratulations!
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Well I found out being a retiree has it's benefits!! Buds Policy Supply sold one to me for $569.00 with a military discount. The PX could not come close to that price. Plus I got 500 rounds of ammo. Now the wait starts.
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Latest update after a little work and day at the range
I had Teddy Jacobson at Actions by "T" perform a Complete Action Job (reducing the trigger pull from 14 to 8 pounds and jewel and polish the cylinder and chamber. All internals and the hammer are now jeweled. Terrific work, as usual, Teddy.
I shot (10) different types of ammunition in all today. The only available .327 mag I have yet to try is Gold Dot 115 gr. GDHP and I will try it next week.. Best of both Federal's was Hydra Shok, 85 gr. JHP. All (3) Buffalo Bore loads expanded the casings making them difficult to eject.. They are too POTENT for the pistol (Hardcast 130 gr. being the worst). Buffalo Bore .32 H&R, Mag +P, 100 gr. was acceptable.
The most accurate and comfortable to shoot was Black Hills .32 H&R Magnum, 85 gr. This is a great load for the revolver.
Biggest Surprise was DPX ACP, 60 gr., JHP. Very accurate, no kick, on ejection issues.
Most fun to shoot - various .32 ammunition (all MagTech)....
.32 S&WL 98 LRN, .32 S&WL 98 gr. LWC and .32 S&W 85 gr. LRN (short).
Like shooting a .22LR. No Kick, one misfire, kinda smokey, but a good starter rounds for a newcomer.
The botom line: The Model 632-2 Pro Series is one heck of good J-Frame and concealed carry revolver with 6 vs. 5 shots, great sights and the power of the .327 Federal Magnum or .32H&R Magnum. It will be with me or my wife on a regular basis.
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11-03-2011, 05:32 PM
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I just wish S&W would offer dovetailed front and rear sights on a 642 or 442, or any other lightweight j capable of shooting .38 Special +P.
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11-24-2011, 03:08 PM
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It's A Wrap, as they say..
I have now shot about everything I could find.
This revolver is a winner and a lot of fun to shoot.
The best round for carry and most the accurate is the Gold Dot, Federal Magnum, 115 grain, GDHP. I have yet to shoot their 100 grain ammunition, but would likely carry the heavier bullet.
I shot (5) .32 ACP rounds and found all soft shooting, even Buffalo bore. They were: DXP, Gold Dot, Winchester ST, Hornady XTP and Buffalo Bore Hardcast. B.B. and Hornady were extremely accurate and a surprise, as was DPX. Each is a good choice for anyone recoil sensitive.
My wife loves the gun and can shoot it all day with .32 long ammunition. I am not sure I will get to carry the gun after all.
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11-24-2011, 06:44 PM
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I had every intention on ordering one of these but when I learned of a shop in Indiana blowing out 3" 632s for $479 I couldn't pass at that price. 3 other friends cleaned out all of the 632s this dealer had left. I have a thing for 3" barrels and this 632 is a very impressive revolver. You definately know you're shooting a true magnum with the 327 Gold Dots as you can see in the YouTube video I posted some time ago. I haven't experienced any extraction problems with 327 loads, and while stout they are like shooting +P 38 Specials. I still may get a 2" 632 but for now my 3" really turned me on to the 327 Magnum calibre. I look forward to seeing many more revolvers in this chambering. These are both great revolvers, I just wish the 3" didn't have the LOCK like the Pro 2" Model.
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11-24-2011, 07:27 PM
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Boy, you have got my mind turning now mag318.
Your price for the 3" is hard to beat. Up until now I have been a 1911 and Sig guy, but I have really enjoyed the Model 632-2.
My wife who is just getting started is comfortable with a revolver and would be happy carrying the 632-2.
GunBlast had a nice review on your pistol when it first came out:
Smith & Wesson Model 632 Carry Comp Pro .327 Federal Magnum Revolver
You have a good video. It tells a real story about the .327 Fed. Mag. cartridge. Many years ago I shot bear and deer with the. 357 and .44 magnums, but the .327 Magnum is a great choice for EDC and a day at the range. The ammunition breadth is far better than the .357/.38 choices. I also hope other manufacturers of ammunition figure this out and get in the game.
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I had every intention on ordering one of these but when I learned of a shop in Indiana blowing out 3" 632s for $479 I couldn't pass at that price. 3 other friends cleaned out all of the 632s this dealer had left. I have a thing for 3" barrels and this 632 is a very impressive revolver. You definately know you're shooting a true magnum with the 327 Gold Dots as you can see in the YouTube video I posted some time ago. I haven't experienced any extraction problems with 327 loads, and while stout they are like shooting +P 38 Specials. I still may get a 2" 632 but for now my 3" really turned me on to the 327 Magnum calibre. I look forward to seeing many more revolvers in this chambering. These are both great revolvers, I just wish the 3" didn't have the LOCK like the Pro 2" Model.
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11-24-2011, 08:50 PM
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fiddlers, there is a glut of 632s on Gunbroker right now with some being priced right. Many of these were made for big distributors who are selling them off at bargain prices.
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11-25-2011, 04:19 PM
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Thank you. Wallet a bit thin. I have another 1911 on the way, but will watch the Gunbroker.
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fiddlers, there is a glut of 632s on Gunbroker right now with some being priced right. Many of these were made for big distributors who are selling them off at bargain prices.
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I just wish S&W would offer dovetailed front and rear sights on a 642 or 442, or any other lightweight j capable of shooting .38 Special +P.
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Hey Oldtexan,
Do you know about the model 640 Pro?
It is the same thing as the 632 that the OP has started this thread about....except it is chambered in .38/.357!
Here is a link: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y
(hope the link works...i struggle to post pics and past links..)
The 640 Pro is next on my list, and will go fine with my 340 M&P and 66 snubbie!
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I've been carrying my 3" 632 in an IWB holster and it has been quite comfortable even though it's slightly heavier than my BG38. The 632 2" would be even better for concealed carry with it's hammer inside the frame. The more I shoot mine the more I really like this chambering. You can practise with 32 Longs or 32 H&R mag loads all day long due to the light recoil. I always end my practise sessions with 12/18 rounds of Speer Gold Dots, my carry round. It's going to be interesting to see if S&W comes out with any other revolvers in this great chambering.
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