With so many quality S&W's out there for relatively modest prices, does S&W sell many new revolvers?

For example, if you can get a nice 27-2 for between $550 and $650, who needs a new N-Frame?

I wouldn't buy one of the current offerings if they were the same price or even less than the older guns. Smiths from the pre-Bangor Punta era are just nicer all around. They feel better and look better in my opinion. YMMV.

Dave

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Sir.
I would think that S&W is selling many new revolvers. Lots of first time buyers. As folks get curious and start doing internet reading on their new gun they find forums and find unusual people, like us. They then start hunting for the older guns, like us.
Bill@Yuma

Thank you for your service.

I have gone that route.
Once upon a time I bought a new Ruger Mini-30.
That gun is long gone, but I still enjoy guns I own from 1919, 1927, 1956, 1957, 1972 and a soon to be acquired 27-2 from 1975.

Would have to be very special to get me to buy a new gun today.

I'm new to S & W, and after a lot of research both in and out of this Forum, I bought a 686-4 in excellent condition. The revolver performs flawlessly.

Who, with half a brain, would want a gun made of powder and glue.

Michele

I own 4 Taurus wheelguns, it gives me the right to bash on them a little bit

I like to take pictures of my Taurus 82 next to my 10-14 and make little funny posters with them......like the generic stuff you buy at Wal-Mart, "Taurus! Compare to ingredients of S&W!"

I bet they sell plenty of J frames at their current pricing - esp the no-lock models.

+1............

Sure, last year when the first 642 no locks appearred I sold 10 in a month
now forget it, people want Ruger LCR. Even the S&W Bodyguard 38 Sp. gets few to no looks, the .380's will go once in awhile

+1

I just bought another one (442 no lock).

$360 out the door is hard to beat for a NIB little carry revolver.

I paid 425 for a no-lock 442 in late 2009, then they lowered the prices on the J's. May have to get a spare, though.

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Sure you did

I just put a 442 no lock on layaway but wouldn't buy a newer large frame revolver with so many nice older ones out there...

Rhino

Hundreds of thousands of new Smith & Wessons are sold every year.

I have 3 new j-frames, but all of my bigger Smith guns are older models. That said, I love all of the Night Guard series, but I think their prices are way off. If they were more affordable, I'd probably have 3.

Due to several features, Smith & Wesson does not currently make a revolver product that I am interested in acquiring.

I maintain a large interest in revolver models formerly made by the company.

My sentiments eactly.

The only new gun I have is a model 610. Only reason I bought it is because I couldn't find the older 610's at the time.

augy

My sentiments exactly.

I have no problem with the newer guns, haven't seen any problems with locks, related to me or anyone I klnow around me... I've purchased 2 SW500, M60-pro, M638, M640, TRR325. Other than the locks, I see no diff in quality or functionality from my older 629, 10, 19, 1917... I plan on buying more in the near future. Looking at a JM625, and did find some poor workmanship with the JM grips, the worst fitting grips on the frame I have ever seen.. not sure who makes them though. But then maybe it's the frame that Smith supplied..

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Jack C

I'm going to guess they do. I see a fair number in the LGS and they seem to turn. There also isn't usually the ones you want to see. I have a fair number of what I call "newer" guns, the ones with the ugly locks and ugly hammers/triggers and ugly barrels.

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Dick Burg

Not really interested in any of the newer guns. Price and umm... "other things."

If price was no object I would probly go for one of the 8 shot 627 or 10 shot .22.

I would onely buy a new model if I REALLY liked it and needed it.
For example . I am thinking about buying the new Performance Center 2 inch , 8 shot 357 magnum. This is something I woudl really like to carry in the summer, off duty.

Other than that I am ONLY interested in pre-lock, pre-mim guns.

As many others have stated, S&W no longer makes anything I am interested in due to current design specs and features. I am very much interested in older Smiths, say anything pre lock, and older is better. I won't debate the merits of old vs new, but I like what I like and thats all there is to it.

In all fairness to S&W, they're not the only ones I feel that way about. I am/was a Remington shotgun guy (I have 5 870s and 2 1100s,) but I am not interested in anything Remington has made since about 1995 or so.

I want a 460 and a 500 so badly.

Look at the forcing cone on a new JM625. You will be shocked how bad it is.I sent one back three times and it still shot terrible! Find one at least 10 years or more older from when they cared about the revolver line and were not so crazy about only making cash cow auto pistols.

I have 300+ S&W revolvers in the safes and they have 3 to 5 I wish I had money to buy. Answer is yes they sell them by the truck load (when they ship ) to new and old shooters.

I WOULD buy new S&W revolvers...
if I could afford it.

I want: 686+ 3" Talo
686+ 2.5"
Nightguards in .357/.45acp/44magnum
340 M&P
442 no lock
642 no lock
classic series model 29

Probably ain't gonna happen....so I will settle for a couple pre-lock 19's and 66's !!

Negative, for me anyways...I have a no-lock 442 (which somehow got passed S&W's excellent QC w/ a mis-fit barrel) and want a 43C...other than that, count me out of any new S&W offerings. I love the 5 pre-lock/pre-mim S&W's I have currently and plan on adding more.

I just bought a nice 629-3 and would not buy a new S&W until the do away with the lock and the MIM parts.

I've purchased three new Smith revolvers over the last 12 months and I bought my first Smith in the 60's.

No, I'm not a curious, first-time buyer. I'm just wise enough not to deny myself some fine revolvers because of a lock so easy to disable, even a caveman can do it!

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Steve
NJ State Trooper (rtd)

Why the negatives on the MIM parts? Which parts are most objectionable?

Forgive him my son, for he know not what he said... or why...

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Jack C

I thought it was a valid question, and I asked it in all seriousness. Powder metallurgy has been used for complex and critical parts in many industries for many years. Properties must approximate those of forged and machined parts after 50 years of development.

I agree, it was, I was speaking about the negative post directed at the MIM part..

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Jack C

27-2's are cool. If they held 8 shots they would be cooler. 8 shots help me make up for a lack of skill.

I think the older guns I have shot have had nicer actions than stock new guns. But I learned how to do a little trigger work from this site and some books and videos. After that, new guns feel good too.

Plus I would feel bad about not cleaning and oiling an old gun. I ride my new stuff hard and put it away wet. My guns will be the ones that make other peoples worth more money in 100 years.
Maybe by then they will figure out how to get them to tell their stories. Mine should have plenty to tell.

"Due to ONE feature, Smith & Wesson does not currently make a revolver product that I am interested in acquiring.

I maintain a large interest in revolver models formerly made by the company."

S&W 1911 stainless steel target model 45 acp is the only new S&W firearm that I bought in the last 10 years. Last year I was fortunate enough to acquire 11 used S&W revolvers without a certain feature at reasonable prices.

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S&WHF 366

While I really appreciate my older blued Smiths, I have no problems with the three stainless lock ones I own. Maybe I got lucky, but these new guns lock up tighter and have better triggers than the older ones I have (which also are wonderful). The worst trigger (single action pull) of my Smiths is on a beautiful, almost unused pre-35. The worst exterior work on a revolver I own is on a 34-1 I bought new about a million years ago. Go figure.

I’m going to keep saying this. We all need to be running out at first opportunity and buying the latest no lock releases. I’m saving up for a 642 or a 442 with no lock. If they see the uptick in sales it might just convince them to build more minus the lock. If they don’t see the sales drop and there are still the nuisance states that require the retarded lock then they will just keep building them all like that. No offence if you live in a nuisance state, it just is what it is.

I'm no first time buyer either; but I wouldn't hesitate to buy a new one if I wanted it and had the cash. Couldn't care less about status on the internet.

I think the biggest problem is price; they are a bit pricey.

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SD9VE, American perfection!

I bought a NEW 60-15 with the 3 inch barrel because I could not find a used one anywhere. Never had a problem with it or the lock. I picked up an older 49 about the same time but it needed work done numerous times. Bought a NEW 2 inch 649 to replace it while it was being repaired for the 4th time. Traded it in on a 640-1. It’s also nice having an option to own a j frame that handles .357.

I have 3 IL equipped S&W's, I bought 2 before I knew better and recently aquired 1 for my wife. The bulk of my modest collection are pre-lock models and the focus of my collecting will continue to be pre-lock revolvers.

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"Shall not be infringed"

Yes, S&W is selling tones of revolvers. Many newer (younger) buyers don't even know that they came without the IL 10 years ago and many also don't seem to care that much.

Got this yesterday... I am one of the newbies you speak of, but not so far removed from the guns of old... just wanted this to start my revolver collection... and as you suggest, I am sure it won't be long before I search for a good oldie. In the meantime, I love this gun and couldn't be happier with my purchase.

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That's a beautiful gun, I purchased the TRR325 myself. Love it. Other than a few guys with their pantys bunched up their crotch, complaining about a part they are too lazy to oil or some ridiculous other non issue... The new PC guns are as good as anything S&W has put out. I've purchased several PC guns, beautiful stuff.

like the song goes... " The times... they are a changin.. "

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Jack C

Can I see a pic of yours... ugh... I can see that this hobby is going to be expensive.. I considered the 325 too... it is friggin sweet. Awesome!

Just checked PB for pics, only have a pic of my 945-1 PC.. maybe I can find one of my 325 online.. looks very similar to your pic.. I'll take my 945's over any Kimber with all the issue I've read about those.. heck I 'd rather have a Hi-point than a Kimber..

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Jack C

I don't know if many of you are involved in the stock market but a few analysts are saying now is the time to buy when swhc is just coming off its bottom. Predictions are that stock has the possibility of a huge increase through 4th quarter of 2012. After that they don't know. When they see shootings like in arizona a month or so again all gun stocks spike because more people buy in fear of laws changing. With current pontiff that is a possibility at all times. After 2012 and the chance for a changing of the guard to a more gun orientated regime that would spell trouble for stock growth. Less people would buy if they felt safe in leaderships direction regarding the laws of the land. - Heres the full take - 3 Gun Stocks: Buy, Sell or Hold? - Stockpickr! Your Source for Stock Ideas

One observation I will make is that if we do not stop singing the praises of the Older Versions of Revolvers from S&W they are going to become affordable. Priced out of reach for all those of us who are not very affluent. Although I do agree I am hoping to acquire a couple more before they reach the "Too Expensive" price range!

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Sam
S&WHF 333 S&WCA 2198

IMHO,
I kinda feel that gun stocks are like airplane stocks.

In the past I have bought airplane stock, and loss my butt big time when there was a plane crash. Personally, I don't think I would speculate on gun stocks.
Of course who knows the future?
augy

my dumb *** bought a new PC S&W. should have done research and bought an old one.

so.... care to elaborate?