If anyone has i would greatly appreciate any impressions you have on this particular generation.. Besides the 710.00 asking price it looks like a beautiful piece.



( apologies i should have located this in the newer revolver thread )

It really is not that special except for the grips. I found that the bluing is not as good as my 10-11 transition model.

how does it shoot?? the online pictures showed a nicely blued example.... that must be the show piece. my old pops was interested in it asked if i could find out about it for him. he also wanted to know what that spur of metal did on the cylinder release side just behind the cylinder on the frame ??

That's the frame-lug, which is now milled into the frame. Before the change to the MIM hammer and frame-mounted firing pin, the frame-lug was a separate part, pressed into and fitted to the frame.

In both cases, the frame-lug prevents the cylinder from sliding off the yoke when the cylinder is open and the ejector rod is operated.

Not when I can get two decent used Model 10's for the price of a new one, and they don't have a lock or MIM parts.

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This is the only one of the Classics that I really don't understand. They never stopped making the Model 10. They just stopped putting on the Uncle Mikes grip and changed it to a laminate and called it a Classic. It's not the older tapered barrel, it's not much of a copy of the original grip, it's not a pinned barrel, MIM parts, and it has the obligatory ILS. Not much of a Classic. But I'm also sure all that being said, they are sweet shooters. If they wanted to make real classics then make them the way they were. And offer another Highway Patrolman and offer a limited run with the eight shot cylinders. Why? Because it would be awesome. That is my only beef with the Classics Model 10.

Sorry, can't comment on the Model 10 Classic. But I have the Model 36Classic in nickel plate, and the action and trigger pull are excellent. Fit and finish are very nice also. Nice grips too, altho I pulled them off because I don't like the angle that it puts my trigger finger at, and found a pair of NOS Sile carved wood grips that suit me better.

If you want it, go for it.

We all know that manufacturing processes have change over the years, that's no secret.

I'll bet it shoots just fine.

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Looks like a beauty to me, I don't know all the details of the original ones, but it kinda makes me think of all the new "classic" cars these days.. the Camaro, Mustang and challenger.. they all look like the old ones, but really not at all... in a good way they are all new..

I have looked at the 10 in the showcase at S&W Retail Store, maybe I'll have to fondle one today if I get up there and report back.. if they have one to shoot, maybe I'll take a walk out to the range and drop a few rounds..

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I bought a new 2" 10-11 9/03 - for $280 - from a closeout dealer in Waco, TX. Great buy - fantastic shooter - beautiful blue job - one only my Heritage 24 could equal, quality wise. I gave up comparing other blued S&W's to it - and have all SS now, even the the last of my blued revolvers, said 2" 10, now being someone else's - my wife's bedside gun! She acquired it years ago, when she was unhappy with the 3" 65 I had fitted a rounded goncalo alves grip to her hand. When she found out those grips fit the 10, she was elated - and acquired said combo as her 'house & car' gun. I stupidly sold the 3" 65. I guess technically, I don't own a blued revolver!

My lust for a 4" 10 I could love was satiated three years ago, when I bought an unused security guard trade-in I could like - a 4" 64! In all seriousness, I'd opt for a tapered tube 4" 10 if I really wanted a 'classic' 10. They were $125 - $250 a few years ago at pawn shops and gunstores. I expect that you can't find one that works for even the top end of that range - they've become 'collectible'. The $700+ 'classic' 10 seems a bit stiff... and not much below a real good 4" .38 - +P rated - .357M rated - 8-holes, too - a 627 Pro! Just my thoughts...

Stainz

I am with Stainz on this. Horace and Dan should have made the 10 classic with the tapered or "pencil" barrel. That is what I think of when I think model 10. I recently pickup up a real classic 10 from '48 in beautiful shape for $495 and a deep blue 10-7 from the '70s for $395. I also just picked up what I call the "Model 10 Perfected" model 64 no dash. I got that for $500. Real 10 classics in like new or almost new shape can be had for much less than the new one.

When you can buy minty Model 10's all day long for way less than that-I realy don't see buying a new one, even if it is a classic. And I feel that way about 686's, 629's 617's and all the rest. To tell ya the truth, the only new Smith revolvers that really do anything for me are the J frames.
I'm almost ready to buy my first IL gun, a 638. Tell y'all what-all of you pitch in and send me 5-10 bucks and when I get enough I'll buy a 638-3.
Why you ask??? Simple. Because with my luck as soon as I buy one, they will announce it without the IL and then the rest of you can get them. That's just the kind of guy I am.

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Ok... for all the naysayers... that haven't even touched this gun.. Just got back from Smith & Wesson Retail Store... had the Model 10 in my hand.. beautiful, absolutely beautiful gun. I own an older M10-7 snubby.. by the way.. this M10-14 I believe was the dash number had excellent blueing, felt very good in the hand, love the grips and the weight of the gun... feels kinda nostalgic... if ya know what I'm trying to say. The trigger waS SWEET, both sa-da.. felt right. Now here I am with no interest in that gun before this thread... now I want one!!! By the way, the price tag at S&W was $647.00... with my 10% vet discount.... under $600... I would think any dealer would have a much better price than $599.. so , maybe we can come back down to earth with this one...

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I sold a M10-6 HB to a forum member late last year for $325. You couldn't tell it from new, except I didn't have the box and accoutrements. Had it for sale for 2 weeks no one wanted it.
Really nice older 10's are out there for way less than these "classic" Smith's.

By the way.. I bought that 638 about a month ago, ran some rounds through it... very nice gun for a airweight gun, in the pocket kinda gun.. does that have a IL on it.... I didn't even notice, I'll have to look at it when I get home... must have, right? The grips are awsome, but I put some old wooden ones on for looks.. gotta look good ya know..

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Others have said this, also. I paid $300 for one a while back, when it wasn't yet quite worth it, and $200 for another when it was. You should still be able to get good ones, better guns than a new one, for $400 or less, and if you deal with your LGS, maybe testfire it, so you know that the sights will be OK for you. These ARE the good old days.

The above is my way of using ten or more characters to say


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Shot my son's used and abused NYPD 10-8HB today. One of the most accurate guns I own. No need for any pricey classics here.

I have too many real model 10's. No need to bother with an overpriced knock off. Regards 18DAI.

I have bought a few new S&W's over the past year or two. Bought a 442, 1911PD, and 642. I'm currently waiting on the new 1911 E series bobtail. I'm not against buying new guns from Smith, but stay away from the lock equiped ones. If they made a 29, 58 or 57 without the lock, I'd jump on them.

i appreciate all the info. i may look around and see if i can find one to try out. i know its pricey right now but im sure there will be a day when it wont be. old M&P's and model 10's ive noticed around here have gone from 250.00 to 350 and 400.... somebody is noticing that folks want these now. mainly in the new one i just wanted to know if it was a quality piece of equipment that may be worth looking into .

jshaf00, the original poster wants to know about the new classic model 10. I wish I could help the OP but I haven't had one in my hand.

When shopping to replace the model 66 I was using for bullseye with a model 14, the new classic was first on my list. Yes street price was $719 but it was brand new with full factory warranty. The only reason I purchased a used gun was for the target trigger and target hammer. It cost me $540 which was the best gun for the best price I could find. Now I had to have it drilled and tapped for scope mount for another $60. So now I'm only $119 less than the new gun. If the new classic had the tt and th and it is already d&t, I would have bought it. For me and many others the IL and MIM parts are a non issue.

Does a 30, 40, 50 year old or more gun have a certain feel to it? Sure, I have several. Is that feeling more in my head than the hand? More than likely.

OP, if you want a new classic model 10, go for it. Buy it, fondle it, clean it and shoot the heck out of it. Enjoy and live the life you want your way.

I got off the phone a few days ago with a fella at one of the large gun shops here, I had him talk to the S&W rep since he was coming in last week, about certain models that ive been looking at but havent been able to find.

Well as it turns out they dont have any mod 10 classics avialable atm, and he didnt know when they would be again, go figure.
there was a mod 10 HB there that I looked at but it was very very used, and not in the best of shape for around 250.00, mechanically seemed ok, but looked like it was dragged behind a truck.

Good luck, hope you can find one.

Available on gungenie.com

I'm not sure why so many people want to blast the guy for wanting to buy a new gun. Only he or she knows what's best for them.

I have one and I love it! And I own many M&P's/Model 10's from all eras. My 10-14 is a sweet shooter and no doubt will last longer than me. I removed the IL and tuned it up with a Wilson combat mainspring and 12# rebound spring. Also added a semi-target hammer, extended firing pin and fitted a trigger stop to the rebound slide. This thing is a TACK driver! This target was shot at 25 yards, in slow SA and fast DA, after I had about a pot of coffee. One day I settled in behind a sandbag and fired a one hole group at 25 yards in SA with it. The new MIM S&W's are very easy to tune, I just dropped in the new springs and other parts, no hand fitting at all, and it's so slick people swear I sent it out for a $300 action job. It's the slickest S&W I own now. I have the trigger as light as possible and still set off CCI primers.



I like the older style RB Magnas better, I did not leave the Altamont magnas on.

I got mine used for $350, I like it so much I may try to track down a new 10-14 just to leave as-is for my Model 10 collection. From what I understand S&W makes "runs" of the Classic 10-14, but you can get one if you look around. Check GB, sometimes a dealer will list 10-14's.



I put the "Dymondwood" magnas on my 64-7, worked great for me and I use this gun for CC on occasion. The dreaded IL is still in this gun, and I shoot this one a lot and no, it has never failed on me.

Don't be discouraged by the curmudgeons who like to talk trash on people for buying "those IL and MIM trash revolvers" that's OK, they're missing out on some nice shooting and durable guns If I had listened to the naysayers I would have missed out on some nice guns. I have learned not to listen to "experts" anymore and to judge for myself.

Stan that really is a nice looking pistol ! Thanks for posting the pictures of it. The finish on yours looks nice!
Also i appreciate the report on how it shoots, nice to know that its not a garbage after thought from Smith. was it difficult to remove the lock??

Sorry i made ya go and fall in love Turbo LOL

As long as you have the proper fitting screwdriver head to remove the sideplate screws, you can remove the IL in about 10 minutes. Sideplate off, remove mainspring and hammer, pop out the flag, fish out the spring for the tumbler with a pick, and then the tumbler drops out. I got a "plug" from Bullseye Smith but didn't use it on my 10-14, I figured I'd save it for something else. The empty hole makes a good place to put a drop of oil

The bluing on the new Smiths is gorgeous, it's a nice matte and it's pretty durable. My used 10-14 shows some wear, like someone used it for a CC piece, but it still looks good and I plan to shoot it as much as I can. With some drop in parts like I listed, this gun will shoot ragged holes in SA at 25 yards, my SA pull is like a 2 lb. glass rod breaking, and the DA is slick.....despite the many naysayers, it is believed by owners of the MIM revolvers that they have slicker DA pulls and are easier to tune by just dropping in parts.The internal MIM parts go together like Legos, each part just fits with another one, no more pins, no more filing, fitting, etc.

The 10-14's also don't have a 2-piece barrel, unlike the 64-8.

Like he said...Some of us like brand new, some like old and used. I just picked up a model 27 classic, used, unfired for $550. Beautiful finish and fine trigger.

I bought my first model 10 in 1969 for the then princely sum of $87.50...blued, 4" bbl. It resides in one of my Smith showcases along with a snubbie I bought about 20 years later. No question in my mind that both these guns are miles ahead of any of the Colt Det Specials I,ve owned over the years. Colts have sharp edges(trigger and frame both) and a cumbersome action.