EVERYONE must shoot a 500 magnum once!!!

My model 29 8 3/8 barrel will do me fine thank you. :)

Lot's of respect for these performers.


Here's my 629 with me on one of the last of the few hunts I went on last deer season. Ready to go laying beside me in the blind.


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One of the sweetest shooters I've owned. In truth, it was all I'd likely ever need in a hunting handgun.....but, my buddy planted the seed with his 500s&w purchase and I had to do it, too. :D Just had to.

Anyway, I'm glad I did.

I'll most likely scope it and leave my 629 clean with open sights since I have nice leather for it.

If I was forced to only own one centerfire revolver....it'd be a 629 of some sort. Love the platform and I love the great .44RemMag. Excellent match.
 
I worked up some loads for my 4" 629 a while back. Started at 19.0/2400 with 250 grain SWC, ten rounds, then ten every half grain through 21.0. Fifty rounds total of this off sandbags was enough....wrist and lower arm felt a little "twangy" and bothered me for a couple of days. (All actually shot very well, but I settled on the 19.0 grain load; I got 1240 fps which is plenty for any use I have...more than enough.)

.500? I'll pass.

We had a local champion shooter and gunsmith (now long deceased of old age) who was an Elmer Kieth & Linabaugh forerunner and stood about 5' 4". He worked up 44 Mag loads w/240 gr SWCs and 26 grs of 2400 in an Old Model 6 1/2" Ruger flattop. He could shoot them into one ragged hole. At 16 it was my first introduction to real recoil. But in the single action design even with standard wood grips, I still remember it as not uncomfortable compared to my 500 or especially the S&W 329 Ti/Sc double actions.
 
i must respectfully disagree i had the priviledge of handling the 4 inch barrel version of the s&w model 500 and just holding the revolver in my hands was enough for me
 
My shotgun is a 10 ga.
My rifle is a 50 cal.

.... but my S&W revolver is a K-22! :D

GF
 
Members who are interested in shooting one sometimes need only to contact a 500 owner in their area who posts on this forum.

I don't know of a single owner who wouldn't invite people to shoot their guns if asked. I've let dozens of people shoot mine and to date six have purchased one... Many times the perception of this gun changes after shooting one. They aren't for everyone...

Anyone member close in Oregon can PM me -- but you'll have to bring your own ammo....:)
 
I have two, an early 8 3/8" which I bought in '03 soon after they first came out, and a 4" I picked up in '05. I confess that, at the time, my primary reason for doing so was that I'd read reports of certain politicians lamenting that this gun was going to be a real "cop killer" as it would shoot through bullet-proof vests, or collapse chest cavities even if it did not penetrate, and how there ought to be a law banning them. There was actually quite a bit of political controversy about the 500 at that time, and I suspect some pressure on S&W to forego even introducing the model. Being oppositional, even though at the time I didn't necessarily want nor need a big caliber handgun, I bought the first one I could find.

As luck would have it, I loved the gun and shot it extensively, handload for it, hunt with it, chronograph it, experiment and play with it, and let my friends shoot it......but only if they ask, I NEVER push this gun on anyone and there have even been a few occasions where I've talked certain folks out of trying it if I was concerned for their safety. As others have said, the gun isn't for everyone.

A year or two later I bought one of the first 4" that came out, and that's my "carry gun" when I go into the backcountry hiking, huckleberry picking, or just loafing. I live in griz country.
 
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I don't know of a single owner who wouldn't invite people to shoot their guns if asked. I've let dozens of people shoot mine and to date six have purchased one... Many times the perception of this gun changes after shooting one. They aren't for everyone...

I too have offered to let others shoot my .500s but I haven't had any takers including cops at one of their ranges. Don
 
I would love to try one! I had a .357 Mag derringer once and shooting it was an adventure. I loved shooting it even though it ripped up the web of my hand once.

Not to stray off-topic here but a question for you reloaders. What's the approximate cost of a reloaded round of .500 Mag?
 
I would love to try one! I had a .357 Mag derringer once and shooting it was an adventure. I loved shooting it even though it ripped up the web of my hand once.

Not to stray off-topic here but a question for you reloaders. What's the approximate cost of a reloaded round of .500 Mag?

So many variables!

We'll assume the brass cost is negligible as it's amortized into multiple reloadings. I like 40 grains of X-terminator under a 440gr Cast performance bullet for a medium power round. That's $0.057 for powder (when on sale!) and $0.356 for the bullet. 41 cents for a .50 cal kaboom is a good deal in my book. Ok, $0.45 counting the primer.

$0.13 worth of H110 and a Hornady 300grain FTX bullet at $0.50 gives you a 2000fps flame-thrower that will split rocks and clear the range. $0.67 with a primer.

It all beats factory ammo at near $2 per round and how much easier can it get than straight walled, headspace-off the rim cartridges?!
 
I have two of them, and enjoy them a great deal. I picked up a S&W 500 with an 8 3/8" barrel a year or two ago, when my favorite gun shop offered me a screaming deal on it (I was purchasing a S&W .44 Magnum - "pre-29" at that time), and I just couldn't pass it up. I had been intrigued by the caliber since it was introduced, but had not wanted to spend that much on a gun which I wasn't sure I would like, especially since it had the lock (still don't like the lock, but you can't get a 500 without it). After reading all the ballyhoo about the terrible recoil, I approached my first range session with it with a degree of concern, but quickly found it to be quite manageable, and certainly not the killer of women and children the recoil had been made out to be. Honestly, the weight of the gun and the excellent recoil absorption properties of the grips make it quite nice to shoot, at most, on a level of a .44 Mag with factory loads. BTW, I generally loathe rubber grips, but they are staying on my two .500s.

Some time after buying my 8 3/8" gun, the same shop got a 4" gun in, and offered it to me at another incredible price, and I couldn't resist it, either. I usually save the 500s 'til the end of my range sessions, especially if I'm shooting heavy loads. The first time I took the 4" gun out, I was shooting some fairly hot 350 grain loads, which run about 1850-1900 fps out of the long tube gun, and are not unpleasant to fire in it. When I fired them in the 4" gun, however, I was not pleased. First, it was spitting lead back at my face (not fun). Second, although the recoil was not, seemingly, that much greater than the long tube gun, the muzzle blast from that short barrel and its compensator was, well, annoying. I really did not like the gun at that point, and seriously considered selling it. However, at the next range session, I decided to try it again. I had cleaned the gun far more thoroughly than I did after I bought it, and got a fair amount of leading out of the barrel and forcing cone, curing the "spitting" problem. I had also switched to some loads I had made up with some 420 grain hollowpoints and some 450 grain solids that I had cast. Those loads worked well out of the long tube gun, and were quite pleasant to shoot. It was with some trepidation that I loaded the 4", as my previous session with it, though cut short, was not really all that pleasant. Imagine my surprise when the new loads made that gun a LOT of fun to shoot. Overall, recoil was definitely greater than the long-barrel gun, and about on par with, or a bit heavier than, a heavy-loaded .44 Mag, the muzzle blast was nowhere near as bad as with those other loads (actually, I hardly noticed the muzzle blast), and it turned out to be so much fun that I shot about 75 or 80 rounds through it, and only shot about 25-30 in the long-tube gun! Pardon the pun, but it was a BLAST! That gun (nicknamed Little Betty Boomn - inspired by Betty Boop - the only other gun in my battery which carries a name) quickly went from being soundly disliked to one of my favorites! It is amazing what a difference a load appropriate to the gun makes. This is no powder-puff load, either - I haven't gotten around to chronoing it yet, but I was using six gallon water jugs filled with loose dirt/sand placed in line as an experimental bullet trap, and nearly all of those bullets passed through all of them, and each impact was impressive, blowing large clouds of sand and dirt out of all the jugs, while destroying most of the jugs and making them fly in all directions!

One other thing, both guns are extremely accurate. I have shot the long tube gun over the 100 yard range extensivey, and it shoots very small groups. It also shoots very well at 150 to 200 yards. The trajectory is quite flat, especially for a handgun, and I don't anticipate any problem taking game with it at distances of 150 yards or more. I haven't fired the 4" at ranges of more than 100 yards, yet, but it, too, shows very good accuracy at ranges of 50-100 yards.

We have a lot of bears up here in the White Mountains of eastern Arizona, and there have been a lot of human/bear problems over the years. I am always armed when out and about, and always pack one of the 500s when I am in Bear country. Having witnessed the difference in impact between the 500s and my .44 Magnums, there is absolutely no contest as to which I will carry for that purpose.

The .500 Magnum isn't for everybody; however, I truly recommend that nobody just decides not to try it simply because they have read all the "macho" BS about how bad the recoil is. The guns are very well made, and are capable of excellent accuracy. Just approach it with an open mind, without deciding before firing one that the recoil is just too terrible to deal with, and you might be pleasantly surprised. Just don't try a 700 grain max load as your first exposure, or a very fast "light" (350 grains is light in this caliber) with a short barrel gun.
 
I too have offered to let others shoot my .500s but I haven't had any takers including cops at one of their ranges. Don

Don,

The horror stories seem to have had an impact in some areas. So many false illusions are based on 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand info from others who gained their information in the same way. The opposition to this truly outstanding gun and caliber baffles me. Many of us who own them know better....:)

I would love to try one! I had a .357 Mag derringer once and shooting it was an adventure. I loved shooting it even though it ripped up the web of my hand once.

Not to stray off-topic here but a question for you reloaders. What's the approximate cost of a reloaded round of .500 Mag?

I know you're fairly close but the "State Of Jefferson" is a large place. When the weather is better and you can arrange to be at the range in White City some day, e-mail me and we'll have you shoot a 500.

I reload and cast my own bullets so my ammo costs are even less than Bendutro's. I have a large lead, primer and powder "stash" from the days when they were all very cheap. I can reload hot FN or HP ammo for less than 25c per round if I exclude brass and don't use bullets requiring gas checks. Moderate loads are even less.

I use powders like H110/ww296 and 2400 for hot and warm hunting loads. I like Unique and Trail Boss for moderate and light loads.
 
I have two of them, and enjoy them a great deal. I picked up a S&W 500 with an 8 3/8" barrel a year or two ago, when my favorite gun shop offered me a screaming deal on it (I was purchasing a S&W .44 Magnum - "pre-29" at that time), and I just couldn't pass it up. I had been intrigued by the caliber since it was introduced, but had not wanted to spend that much on a gun which I wasn't sure I would like, especially since it had the lock (still don't like the lock, but you can't get a 500 without it). After reading all the ballyhoo about the terrible recoil, I approached my first range session with it with a degree of concern, but quickly found it to be quite manageable, and certainly not the killer of women and children the recoil had been made out to be. Honestly, the weight of the gun and the excellent recoil absorption properties of the grips make it quite nice to shoot, at most, on a level of a .44 Mag with factory loads. BTW, I generally loathe rubber grips, but they are staying on my two .500s.

Some time after buying my 8 3/8" gun, the same shop got a 4" gun in, and offered it to me at another incredible price, and I couldn't resist it, either. I usually save the 500s 'til the end of my range sessions, especially if I'm shooting heavy loads. The first time I took the 4" gun out, I was shooting some fairly hot 350 grain loads, which run about 1850-1900 fps out of the long tube gun, and are not unpleasant to fire in it. When I fired them in the 4" gun, however, I was not pleased. First, it was spitting lead back at my face (not fun). Second, although the recoil was not, seemingly, that much greater than the long tube gun, the muzzle blast from that short barrel and its compensator was, well, annoying. I really did not like the gun at that point, and seriously considered selling it. However, at the next range session, I decided to try it again. I had cleaned the gun far more thoroughly than I did after I bought it, and got a fair amount of leading out of the barrel and forcing cone, curing the "spitting" problem. I had also switched to some loads I had made up with some 420 grain hollowpoints and some 450 grain solids that I had cast. Those loads worked well out of the long tube gun, and were quite pleasant to shoot. It was with some trepidation that I loaded the 4", as my previous session with it, though cut short, was not really all that pleasant. Imagine my surprise when the new loads made that gun a LOT of fun to shoot. Overall, recoil was definitely greater than the long-barrel gun, and about on par with, or a bit heavier than, a heavy-loaded .44 Mag, the muzzle blast was nowhere near as bad as with those other loads (actually, I hardly noticed the muzzle blast), and it turned out to be so much fun that I shot about 75 or 80 rounds through it, and only shot about 25-30 in the long-tube gun! Pardon the pun, but it was a BLAST! That gun (nicknamed Little Betty Boomn - inspired by Betty Boop - the only other gun in my battery which carries a name) quickly went from being soundly disliked to one of my favorites! It is amazing what a difference a load appropriate to the gun makes. This is no powder-puff load, either - I haven't gotten around to chronoing it yet, but I was using six gallon water jugs filled with loose dirt/sand placed in line as an experimental bullet trap, and nearly all of those bullets passed through all of them, and each impact was impressive, blowing large clouds of sand and dirt out of all the jugs, while destroying most of the jugs and making them fly in all directions!

One other thing, both guns are extremely accurate. I have shot the long tube gun over the 100 yard range extensivey, and it shoots very small groups. It also shoots very well at 150 to 200 yards. The trajectory is quite flat, especially for a handgun, and I don't anticipate any problem taking game with it at distances of 150 yards or more. I haven't fired the 4" at ranges of more than 100 yards, yet, but it, too, shows very good accuracy at ranges of 50-100 yards.

We have a lot of bears up here in the White Mountains of eastern Arizona, and there have been a lot of human/bear problems over the years. I am always armed when out and about, and always pack one of the 500s when I am in Bear country. Having witnessed the difference in impact between the 500s and my .44 Magnums, there is absolutely no contest as to which I will carry for that purpose.

The .500 Magnum isn't for everybody; however, I truly recommend that nobody just decides not to try it simply because they have read all the "macho" BS about how bad the recoil is. The guns are very well made, and are capable of excellent accuracy. Just approach it with an open mind, without deciding before firing one that the recoil is just too terrible to deal with, and you might be pleasantly surprised. Just don't try a 700 grain max load as your first exposure, or a very fast "light" (350 grains is light in this caliber) with a short barrel gun.

Good write-up,310Pilot! It sounds as though you have the same two guns that I have, although I realize that some 8 3/8" guns come with the 'original' integral comp, and other more recent production with the interchangeable ones like on the 4" models. Reading your description I found myself wondering which one yours is?

My reason for asking is that my experience was similar in ways to yours. I had the longer gun, which is an early production version with the smaller integral/permanently attached comp, for a couple of years prior to buying the 4", and was somewhat surprised by my early shooting experiences with the shorter gun when I got it. I fully expected recoil to be more brutal, but my admittedly subjective impression was just the opposite. With identical loads I discovered that the 4" gun didn't seem to punish my hands as much as the longer gun, the recoil felt "softer" for lack of a better term. I attributed this to the larger and possibly more efficient compensator. The long gun had a sharper and quicker recoil resulting in a greater stinging sensation in the palm of my strong-hand. I typically wore gloves when shooting it, but discovered that I really didn't need them with the 4".

Muzzle blast, on the other hand, was vastly increased using the short gun. I try hard to keep my eyes open when I shoot, assisting in follow-through and concentration, and found myself being really dazzled by the blast and flash of the short gun. Shooting the thing late one evening at dusk was a truly dazzling experience!! It occurred to me that the noise, blast and flash could create the impression of greater recoil.

Just my admittedly very subjective observations. I like and enjoy both guns very much. Fun stuff!!
 
Good write-up,310Pilot! It sounds as though you have the same two guns that I have, although I realize that some 8 3/8" guns come with the 'original' integral comp, and other more recent production with the interchangeable ones like on the 4" models. Reading your description I found myself wondering which one yours is?

My reason for asking is that my experience was similar in ways to yours. I had the longer gun, which is an early production version with the smaller integral/permanently attached comp, for a couple of years prior to buying the 4", and was somewhat surprised by my early shooting experiences with the shorter gun when I got it. I fully expected recoil to be more brutal, but my admittedly subjective impression was just the opposite. With identical loads I discovered that the 4" gun didn't seem to punish my hands as much as the longer gun, the recoil felt "softer" for lack of a better term. I attributed this to the larger and possibly more efficient compensator. The long gun had a sharper and quicker recoil resulting in a greater stinging sensation in the palm of my strong-hand. I typically wore gloves when shooting it, but discovered that I really didn't need them with the 4".

Muzzle blast, on the other hand, was vastly increased using the short gun. I try hard to keep my eyes open when I shoot, assisting in follow-through and concentration, and found myself being really dazzled by the blast and flash of the short gun. Shooting the thing late one evening at dusk was a truly dazzling experience!! It occurred to me that the noise, blast and flash could create the impression of greater recoil.

Just my admittedly very subjective observations. I like and enjoy both guns very much. Fun stuff!!


you can definitely feel the blast from the 4". after 60 or so rounds my face felt a little numb :eek: so far I haven't had anything spit back at my face.

for some fun you should shoot it lying down with a sand bag and watch the grass move :D its really interesting. not a very comfortable way to shoot it though :rolleyes:
 
for some fun you should shoot it lying down with a sand bag and watch the grass move :D its really interesting. not a very comfortable way to shoot it though :rolleyes:

REALLY want some fun? Try that with a 50BMG :D
 
REALLY want some fun? Try that with a 50BMG :D

I've done that quite a few times with a 50BMG, shoot it prone off of an M60 bipod and it kicks up quite a dust/twig/grass-storm! Haven't tried it with the 500, however.
 
I wish i could do that with the 50 bmg :eek: a bit out of my price range at the moment though...... so for now the 500 is the only 50cal blast i get close to :D
 
I was shooting a .357 magnum at a range on FT Stewart in Hinesville, Georgia. A retired First Sergeant sat next to me on a bench with cannons; a Desert Eagle .50, a 45-70 revolver (no kidding), and a .454 catsull. He stole the show when he shot these guns. Literally everyone stopped to observe him while checking their hearing protection. I fully expected him to hurt himself, especially when shooting the 45-70 revolver. Seeing my interest in his guns, he kindly asked me if I wanted to shoot his guns. I reluctantly agreed. I survived shooting these guns, but I can't understand the need for these guns on a practical basis other than to steal the show at a range. What I learned from this painful experience is that I am perfectly satisfied I will not need anything larger than my S&W 629-1 .44 mag. In no foreseeable event in any (and I mean any) outdoor situation I am in do I feel I will need anything larger than my .44 mag. Those cannons are extra weight and unpleasant to shoot. God bless those that shoot these and other hand cannons because they give us old guys something to talk (an sometimes smirk about) depending on the outcome at local range sessions.
 
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I've had the opportunity to try some large caliber handguns. I even shot a 45-70 revolver in my youth. (Custom piece made for an editor of Guns and Ammo.) Recently I was offered the chance to shoot 2 commercial rounds from a ported 4" 500 at my range. Much to my surprise, it didn't tear my arm off. Now I am not a "tough guy" or a recoil junkie. My Ruger Redhawk with full power commercial ammo is plenty for me to handle. But I have to say that those who talk about a technique when shooting powerful handguns, like letting your arm and shoulder roll with the recoil, are on to something. That's what I did with the .500 and I think it helped a lot. Still, not something I'd want to do again soon.
 
I shot a friend of mines bfr in 500 s&w, 7 inch barrel and no brake. A couple of cylinders was enough. I know the made the bfr in 450 Marlin, I wonder how that would compare to the 500 s&w. Also read how someone with a bfr in 45-70 had it reeked out to 45-90.
 
You nailed it Bluto. The key to success is to roll with it instead to fight the recoil. That's what I did when firing some hand cannons as mentioned above. A man who tries to hard to fight the recoil will get hurt.
 
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