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08-29-2011, 09:48 PM
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Decompensate X-Frames 460 & 500?
How can I decompensate my X-Frames? I love X-frames but dont like the blast.
I think S&W stopped selling the 460 blank compensator
They could be machined slightly out to make a 500 blank compensator.
Can anyone make some or sell theirs or point me in the right direction?
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08-29-2011, 10:58 PM
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I'm interested in one too....didnt think anyone made/modded them anymore
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08-30-2011, 12:51 AM
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I would change only 2 things about my 500.
1) Ditch the comp in favor of a fully rifled 4" tube.
2) As much as I dispise it, I won't mention the other item as the
subject has been beat to death.
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Well this might be drastic but I'd get a long barrel 500 and cut it off to the length I wanted and remount the original front sight so it looked like it was made at the factory. Any other solution to me would look cobbled up. If I wanted a 3" I'd get the survival model 500 that comes w/o compensator.
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08-30-2011, 02:27 PM
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I like Hondo44's idea. I'd like to take a 6.5 with the half underlug and cut it to 5".
vernax, your quest to find a de-compensating compensator as was available for 460's may be very, very difficult. To my knowledge S&W doesn't offer them anymore and those that were modified to fit the 500's are being tightly held by their owners.
A lot of people don't like compensator's and the re-directed blast and noise they can create. Perhaps a letter campaign to S&W requesting re-production of the item for 500's could help ... or some talented machinist could consider filling the need....
Those looking to buy their first 500 and not wanting a compensator on their gun might want to consider one of the 5" John Ross 500's as an option...
JMHO
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Along the lines of too simple to consider: just take it off - it does not need to be in place to shoot.
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08-30-2011, 03:29 PM
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Anyone have the resources to get some made (machined)? I'm sure someone could make 25 of these quite easily and sell them at $25 a pop?
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Anyone have the resources to get some made (machined)? I'm sure someone could make 25 of these quite easily and sell them at $25 a pop?
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You may want to try a post in the gunsmithing section of this board for your request. If none of the "smiths" who frequent that section want to do the job I'm sure they could guide you to someone able to do good work...
Seems to me there would be a good market for them too.....
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$25.00 each?
I think that's wishful thinking. Machine time alone replicating all the slots would drive the cost up. Plus, I think you'd have to find a friend who was really, really good at machining because I don't think any of the major companies would make a part to modify a S&W 500 if the part was in contact with the bullet, or very close to it (compensator). Too much liability. If they made a small error and bullets started smacking into the faux compensator and blowing up the end of the barrel...well, you can catch my drift.
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Groo here
At one time I had the manufacture for the insert --- a check on the
web should find them,, they were not made by S&W
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08-30-2011, 10:57 PM
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A couple months ago, I spoke with two local machine shops about making these for my 460. When they found out it was for a "gun part", they said they weren't licensed to make gun parts and mumbled about insurance. That was the end of the conversation. So, I gave up. I do wish S&W would bring these back out for the 460. Yes, I know I can just leave it off, but... I just dont like the look of the gun without it.
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Remove the compensator on an x-frame
Hello @all,
I think i´m resurrecting an old thread. I just bought a 500 x-frame with the 8 3/8 barrel, one with the fixed compensator, the earliest design I guess. Since I read a lot about it being much better without the compensator, I sent it to a custom gunsmith who offers to remove the compensator and replace it with a simple stainless steel plate. Thus do away with the concussion and noise to the shooter. So far so good... Now my question is: is there first hand experience on how the revolver holds up to full house loads, approaching 50,000 psi and 2600 ftps with 400+ gr bullets and without the compensator? And, is the revolver still controllable at these power levels?
Greetings,
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Decomp 500 Mag
A member here: freedom 475
manufactured some replacement non-slotted pieces to do what you want.
I bought one, it required just a bit of fitting, but got the job done.
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There's always the John Ross 500.
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Quote:
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Hello @all,
I think i´m resurrecting an old thread. I just bought a 500 x-frame with the 8 3/8 barrel, one with the fixed compensator, the earliest design I guess. Since I read a lot about it being much better without the compensator, I sent it to a custom gunsmith who offers to remove the compensator and replace it with a simple stainless steel plate. Thus do away with the concussion and noise to the shooter. So far so good... Now my question is: is there first hand experience on how the revolver holds up to full house loads, approaching 50,000 psi and 2600 ftps with 400+ gr bullets and without the compensator? And, is the revolver still controllable at these power levels?
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Hello, welcome to the forum.
If i may, you should start a "new" thread for this.
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I wouldn't take the muzzle break off of my 460 if you pay me....the benefits in accuracy are just too great!
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Well this might be drastic but I'd get a long barrel 500 and cut it off to the length I wanted and remount the original front sight so it looked like it was made at the factory. Any other solution to me would look cobbled up. If I wanted a 3" I'd get the survival model 500 that comes w/o compensator.
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A guy did just that on this board, you should be able to search it. Its not so easy as these are sleeved two piece barrels, but it can be done
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Quote:
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how the revolver holds up to full house loads, approaching 50,000 psi and 2600 ftps with 400+ gr bullets and without the compensator?
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Hopefully you made a typo, the .500 Mag velocities are much more like 1600+ fps with 400+ gr slugs than 2600 fps. 2600 fps is more like .460 Weatherby power levels. Don
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Uhmmm... yes, 2600 ft-lbs was what I meant...
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The muzzel break on the 14" 460 S&W does not make it any more accurate than 14" gun without one.
I dont see any difference in accuracy shooting the 10.5", 12" (no comp), or 14" (no comp) or 14" with brake, all with bipod.
I perfer the un-comped versions as you don't get as much noise and pressure reflected back on you.
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