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09-13-2011, 11:00 AM
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Seeking tips for choosing optics for a 647
geezer eyes need assistance in maximizing accuracy potential for this fine hand gun....
have the 'weber' style rail and will mount whatever fits it...
The only actual pistol scope I've had was mounted on a 44 mag Redhawk decades ago and I didn't care for it at the time....could still see pretty well and the 1.4~4x didn't get much use. Long gone but now I need some kind of upgrade.
Have had red dot on prior hand guns; not sure of advantages now.
Suggestions/tips/comments/specific recommendations solicited.
Going to gun show this week end with a couple $ in my pocket, so speak up gents!!!
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09-13-2011, 11:21 AM
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I assume you mean "weaver" style. There should be a ton of small red dot sites that will mount on the weaver mount/rail at the show.
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09-13-2011, 01:39 PM
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My mistake...it's a "Weigant Combat" product.
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09-13-2011, 07:07 PM
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AS I too am currently plagued with "geezer eyes" I can offer a couple of suggestions. BTW my particular issue is that I can no longer focus on handgun sights but my distance vision still tests at 20/25.
My preference for ranges up to about 40 yards is a small Reflex sight, a type of Red Dot that uses a small vertical screen to provide a projected image of the dot. Below are 3 of my revolvers equpped with the J Point Reflex and a link to web page at J Point for this sight. As you can see it's a very compact and low sitting sight, so it was easy to modify a standard holster to clear the sight. I'll also provide a link to my report on the J Point because it does feature some compromizes that reduce it's optical clarity, however I have found they work very well as a sight even if the dot is a touch fuzzy. One big benefit for this particular mount is that the offset between the barrel and sight is quite low, as a result all 3 of these revolvers shoot within an inch of the dot from 10 yards out to 40 yards or more. BTW, I have all 3 zeroed at 30 yards.
Purchased 2 more J Point Reflex sights, range report.
JP Rifles
The second option is more bulky and won't fit in a standard holster, however for 50 yards and beyond nothing works better for me than a good handgun scope. Negative is that you really need to sight them at long range and accept that due to the distance between the scope and the barrel they will shoot low at shorter ranges. I would suggest using 40 yards to zero the scope, with most ammo's that should keep you within 3 inches of the scope from10 yards out to about 75 yards. With a really flat shooting caliber, you may see the scope shoot within 2 inches. One thing you must NOT do is zero the sighting in for close range such as 10 yards, that will create a convergance between the scope and the barrel and could result in shooting over a berm downrange. Below is my 620 with a weaver rail and a Nikon Monarch 2x20 EER, which features optical quality that is simply stunning and it held zero perfectly with 357 Magnums. BTW, it did shoot loose on me once when shooting 38 spl. and I've since learned to make sure those clamp screws are REALLY tight and check them during a range session.
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09-13-2011, 07:48 PM
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I have a 41 mag M57 with 8 3/8 barrel with 2X Leupold and it works really well out to 100 yards. Killed a couple of whitetails both one shot right in the ribs at 65-75 yards. Hit one with JHP and other with hard cast lead.
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09-14-2011, 11:25 PM
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remember that your focus when shooting should result in sights (especially front sight) sharp and target fuzzy. If you use reading glasses use them for shooting as you need to read the front sight- about the same distance from eye to pistol sights as for reading. I tell people with bifocals to get a set of lenses with full reading prescription. Then they say hey the targets fuzzy- it is supposed to be if you are focusing on your sights
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09-14-2011, 11:34 PM
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To focus..
I have, and have had, scoped hand guns-and red dot-holygraphic, etc. All have their uses I have found, but a couple of years ago I described my dificulty in focussing on both of the sights on a typical hand gun to an eye Doc, and she whipped me up an RX that solves the problem, for me. I now "see" the target with secondary focus, and see both sights well enough to get good alignment. The change was dramatic. I had tried one of those shooting attachments that act as an artificial retina-that is adjustable-and while it worked very well, I found it cumbersome. You have probably seen them at bullseye matches, a thing sticking out from the shooters firing eye. Of course, I bought the cheap 50 dollar one that you "lick and stick" to your regular glasses, not knowing how the thing would work, and then after I discovered that it did indeed work, I was too cheap to buy the one actually mounted on an eyeglass frame. After all, I already had 50 in the other thing, right? I had the glasses RX filled in what looks like a pair of shooting glasses, not the goggle looking ones, but shooting glasses "light" if you get my drift. I like looking over a pair of iron sights-there are exceptions, but that's where I'm comming from, and lugging that all around ain't my deal. Maybe later... Flapjack.
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