625-2 hammer problem??

[JJ_BPK]

I purchased a used 625-2 that was setup for PPC. The hammer was bobbed. The LGS that sold it to me said (and I verified with the factory) that they had sent it in for the replacement of the hammer strut. A used hand and spring were included in the box.

LGS: When I was given the gun I returned it as close to original as it could, and sent it to Smith to get the hammer pin fixed, I asked that they check the cylinder gap and timing when it was there and all the repair report said was hammer pin replaced cylinder in spec.

The double action pull and let off is nothing special. It is smooth but far heavier than my much loved 940-1, 9mm or any of my other S&W revolvers. All of which are factory stock, purchased new.

If I attempt to cock the hammer for single action, there are two distinct set notches.

The 1st give a light(3-5 lb) crisp single action pull, with zero over travel. But, this notch is hard to find and 90% of the time the hammer slips past it and goes to #2.

The 2nd gives the grittiest, sloppiest, grinding *** pull I have ever had. The set point is approximately 3/16" pass the #1. The kicker is the trigger pull is way over 10lbs and has 1/4-3/8 inch travel before let-off,, plus over travel. With a little practice, I can rock the trigger & hammer almost 1/4 inch back-n-forth, without let off. When cocking it sounds & feels like an old 45 colt SAA..

I plan to send the pistol to the factory for repair. I want to have a target hammer re-installed. The smooth combat trigger it came with is acceptable.

Q: Do I tell the factory to look at the trigger AND replace the hammer?? or Replace both??

Q: Does anyone have an explanation for the double notch??

New Topic:

Q: I have attached a pic of what I believe is a 625JM PC 4inch barrel on a 170161. Could someone verify this?? I believe this is what I will have installed as I am pretty sure there are no 3 inch barrels at the factory, nor are there any 45ACP MG barrels.. I was quoted 125 USD over the phone..


Thanks
Jim

[JoeHatley]

Do I tell the factory to look at the trigger AND replace the hammer?? or Replace both??

Kinda like getting your car repaired. Tell them what's wrong and let the pros come up with the best fix.

This is my 2001 5 1/4" PC625-7, that was unofficially know as the Jerry M. model.




Underlug looks the same, you have the short cylinder, and my came with the gold bead sight but I swapped it out.

Joe

[scooter123]

It's pretty obvious that the hammer pivot pin was replaced, hopefully it was done by pressing out the old pin and pressing in a new one. However, from what you are describing about it's behavior in single action IMO it's pretty obvious that you have a mismatched hammer and trigger. Something that I would expect from Bubba but NOT S&W's service center.

I hope you got it for a really good price, because I think your only option is to send it in to S&W for a full service tuneup. I think that you can also expect that it will need a new hammer and trigger, because there is no telling what Bubba did to either.

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Q: Does anyone have an explanation for the double notch??

While I am by no means an expert on any of this, I am pretty sure that my own experience is that the second, heavy cocking "notch," if that is what it actually is, is a direct result of bobbing the hammer, and is probably from removing a little bit of metal from the rear of the body of the hammer, where it contacts the frame. I don't even think that the hammer is cocking (the second time) in the original SA notch. If this creates a problem (which it obviously does in your case), you probably need to replace the hammer.

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

Q: Do I tell the factory to look at the trigger AND replace the hammer?? or Replace both??

Probably the former. It certainly happened to me with only hammer alteration, and if the trigger wasn't messed with, I don't see why hammer replacement alone wouldn't fix it.

Hope this helps.

[JJ_BPK]

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the replies..

As I want a target hammer installed, I hope the factory will sort out the problem.

I'll probably try to print a picture of the barrel, as I can't find the PN for the 4 inch 45acp JM PC barrel with right side re-leaved pin shroud..