Any one had the, Master Revolver Action Package done by S&W?

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Smith & Wesson Performance Center Gunsmithing Service offers a Master Revolver Action Package.

Anyone had this done on their 627?
What were the results?

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I've never sent one in but am thinking about sending them a Model 36 for this along with a refinish. I look forward to any replies you might receive.
 
I have not. I considered it for my 686 which I shoot in gun games. I chose to send mine to Mike Carmoney. He's *highly* recommended by most anyone who shoots a lot of action-style competitions.

He'll take things like chamferring or trigger weight far further than S&W would do.

Competition revolver action package - Brian Enos's Forums... Maku mozo!

If you're going to spend the money on an action job I'd send it to him. Read and understand the differences between a full action job for USPSAers and those who don't reload, etc.
 
Carmoney

Mike is not currently accepting new work. Check his site on the BrianEnos forum to see if/when he can take new work.
 
I had one done on a 627-2. It came home with ratchet/cylinder bind, far greater than it should have. It also came back with an oversize hand, instead of replacing the extractor and putting a standard hand in. It's been back for work twice since then and is going back again for a hitch in the trigger pull. I already have the shipping label. After this, I'm going to find somebody better than me if I need that kind of work done. The most obvious improvement was polishing the yoke barrel, so much so that the back was rounded where it was peened to eliminate the endshake.
 
Nightowl said:
I had one done on a 627-2. It came home with ratchet/cylinder bind, far greater than it should have. It also came back with an oversize hand, instead of replacing the extractor and putting a standard hand in. It's been back for work twice since then and is going back again for a hitch in the trigger pull. I already have the shipping label. After this, I'm going to find somebody better than me if I need that kind of work done. The most obvious improvement was polishing the yoke barrel, so much so that the back was rounded where it was peened to eliminate the endshake.
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Okay Nightowl, unless ten positive posts pop up, that does it for me, I'll look elsewhere besides the performance center where Smith and Wesson advertises they have the "best of the best" of their gunsmiths with an average of 24 years experience.

So now that we know Mike Carmoney is not accepting any further orders, who do you guys recommend to get the action enhanced a bit?
 
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I have had good luck with basic repairs from S&W, such as correcting slow carry-up, end-shake, etc. I would be interested in hearing if there are other options for action work as it seems that the most recommended people are not accepting new work. The guys local to me have left a bad taste in my mouth, ie. cutting springs on a j-frame to the point that the trigger wouldn't even reset.
 
I had a 625-8 tuned like that several years ago. I'm very pleased and the moon clip full of them fat little acp rounds just literally JUMP into the cylinders!

Don't know anyone else with a 627; mine is a PC Vmag model, don't think I need to have it buffed out yet....although I did put a little heavier trigger return spring in as the original was getting a bit weak after 4 seasons of matches nearly twice a month.
 
I think Mag-na-port offers high quality gunsmithing services. I had them do some work for me once, and it seemed to be top quality. That was quite a while ago, however. I have not heard anything negative about their work, and was told over the phone by a Ruger rep at the factory that they were very good. wyatte
 
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Try Sand Burr Gun Ranch. sandburrgunranch.com Ayoob wrote it up in a gun magazine this summer and I saved the link. I think I'll try him with a gun or two that need some action work that is outside my ability.
 
FWIW I've always heard very good things about the S&W shop. They just aren't as aggressive as some gamers prefer.

Ask over on the revolver sub-forum on Brian Enos forums. They'll know who the next best choices are.
 
Do you reload?

I think that's a huge factor in whether or not it's worth it to get an action job. If you do not reload, and use deep seated Federal primers I don't think an action job is worth the cost.

My 686 was all ready a very solid trigger out of the box. Maybe I was lucky and just got a better one.

I shoot IDPA (can't remove ILS) and also wanted to keep the hammer spur for range use, and I don't reload. While my trigger job is as good as one can get without reloading, without going DAO, and without removing the ILS, and most importantly reloading with fully seated Federal primers one just can't get that truly amazing trigger without doing those extra steps.

If you'll do those things I'd get one. If not I might save my money.
 
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Photoman44 said:
There's only so much you can do to a "duty" gun. I'm sure 95% of us would do just fine with a gun done by the Performance Center.
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My stock guns shoot better than I do. It would take me a LOT of rounds down range before I might be able to shoot any better due to a trigger job, etc. And right now, my best trigger is on my Ruger Alaskan, which looks like it was finished by a drunk Afghan using large rocks. Guess he used all the small rocks honing the trigger...;)
 
I sent a 624 in for the Master Revolver Action package and S&W did a great job. They fixed an issue the gun had with binding in the action on 2 of the cylinders. They also smoothed out the trigger pull so that it is slick as butter. They chamferred the charge holes also which helps out quite a a bit with reloading.

What is nice is that S&W did not charge me to fix the issues the gun had to begin with. They fixed it and then did the action package for the price of just the Action package.
 
gr7070 said:
They just aren't as aggressive as some gamers prefer.
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That's good news, because the last thing I want is a competition only weapon. In USPSA I compete in the Production Division against semi-autos, and I'm just looking to lighten up just a bit what is already great but heavy action on a PC627.

I think I'll actually send in a thirty year old Model 60 that has action that needs attention, see how that turns out, then see about the PC 627
 
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dwever said:
I'm just looking to lighten up just a bit what is already great but heavy action on a PC627.
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That you can do pretty easily. Your PC probably all ready has a smoothed out trigger anyway.

Just back out the mainspring tension screw till you have a lighter, still reliable trigger. Then Loctite it in place.

Or you can grind down the screw end to make it shorter. It might bs easier to donthis with two screws grinding each one after the other so one won't be shortened too far.

You could also take the mainspring out and just bend it a little to lighten up the pull while still having a tensions screw that's is fully seated.

I wouldn't do this on a self defense 627.

I'm sure others can suggest different methods.

If you use Federal or American Eagle ammo you'll likely be able to get a lighter reliable pull as they use Federal primers I believe.
 
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Nightowl said:
I had one done on a 627-2. It came home with ratchet/cylinder bind, far greater than it should have. It also came back with an oversize hand, instead of replacing the extractor and putting a standard hand in. It's been back for work twice since then and is going back again for a hitch in the trigger pull. I already have the shipping label. After this, I'm going to find somebody better than me if I need that kind of work done. The most obvious improvement was polishing the yoke barrel, so much so that the back was rounded where it was peened to eliminate the endshake.
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WOW!! Thanks for the warning! Who'd have expected that?

Will avoid like plague... thanks very much!

John
 
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