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Old 07-14-2013, 02:04 PM
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I have a model 13-3 nickel. Was the nickel one only issued to civilians during that time period. I have never seen or any heard of any going to the FBI. My serial is 9D98xxx
Since they are not military, FBI agents are civilians also. Sometimes I think they forget in light of the quasi-military type "rules of engagement" and HRT and all sorts of cross training (contamination) with military special operations types. FBI agents are civilians, and the agency is a CIVILIAN law enforcement agency. Sorry to make a big deal about this, but the sooner they (and we) understand it is not an "us and them" scenario, the better off we will all be.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:55 PM
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They're out there. A member here has 3 13-2's that letter as being shipped to the FBI.
I found all 3 in a gunshop in NY years ago. They now belong to forum member 29-1, and the Missus.

A little behind the story. I was in said gunshop picking up another handgun at the time. The owners son said "look at what just came in, a guy dropped off some FBI guns". He had 3 of them together. I took a look, only one had wood grips and one of them had "pushoff", and all had the look of "being there", as I recall. Being broke at he time, and having just bought a whole slew of guns, I left the shop. There was a discussion on the foum about FBI guns at that time, and I dropped in to say "if anyone is looking for an FBI gun, PM me". The only guy to respond was Chuck Odom(who lives/lived some 1 hour from the shop), whose wife is FBI, and he wanted to know where they were. I gave him the info, he called the shop and they were still there. I "think" he may have called Roy Jinks with serial numbers to verify that in fact they were FBI guns. They were, Chuck bought all 3.
I was glad to help him get these guns, and don't regret a thing.
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Price check m13's, FBI guns?
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Old 07-14-2013, 04:44 PM
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Since they are not military, FBI agents are civilians also. Sometimes I think they forget in light of the quasi-military type "rules of engagement" and HRT and all sorts of cross training (contamination) with military special operations types. FBI agents are civilians, and the agency is a CIVILIAN law enforcement agency. Sorry to make a big deal about this, but the sooner they (and we) understand it is not an "us and them" scenario, the better off we will all be.
yea that would be me...sorry about that. 25 years in the army and 6 in the reserves kind of deadens the brain cells. I stand humbly apologetic. The wife still hits me when I call her a civilian.
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Old 07-14-2013, 06:07 PM
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Since they are not military, FBI agents are civilians also. Sometimes I think they forget in light of the quasi-military type "rules of engagement" and HRT and all sorts of cross training (contamination) with military special operations types. FBI agents are civilians, and the agency is a CIVILIAN law enforcement agency. Sorry to make a big deal about this, but the sooner they (and we) understand it is not an "us and them" scenario, the better off we will all be.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:04 AM
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