I've always wanted a new blued 357. I'm so glad they brought the 586 back. Its not totally original (hole with frame mounted pin), but that's as close as we're gonna get without buying used.

Product: Model 586 4 Inch Barrel

Interesting that its a 6 shooter.They made a small run around 04 or 05 ,but those held 7 rounds.

Dang it all... I want one so bad but not with the... Well, you know...

I see they are tagged Shot Show 2012. How did you find these, I do not see any others ?

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Sometimes you got to just move on and buy it, it is what it is, or get used.

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Also, I see they did them in six inches as well:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

veryyyyy nice

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I was browsing their website this afternoon. Clicked on revolvers and low and behold. Couldn't believe it; never thought they would bring it back.

just out of curiosity, how much would one expect to pay for a pre-lock, 6" 586 used in, 98% + condition?

why the hell would anyone want the new one? I love all my old one's and all are amazing shooters and built to last , do not need to waste money on a new one that probably wont last 5 years and have a IL and probably have a horrible trigger.
Eric

Picked one up for $500 a few months ago.Great gun.

+1 all the way!

$500 seems about right. I watched them on Gunbroker for several months this year and finally got one (4") LNIB for $550.

I would buy one, I'm a fan of the "new gen" S&W's.

My Dad also has a 6" 586 he bought new in 1989, and even with this I would still buy a new 586.

It seems like they basically just decided to make the 586 again because they already have the 686 standard 6-shot in production, and it wouldn't be a big stretch to just make a blued model.

While I agree that things of old were built with a much higher level of tender loving care than things built today, I feel that this statement is WAY over the top and does nothing productive to encourage new shooters to go out and purchase new guns and expand the shooting sports and firearms collecting hobby that we all enjoy. You do realize that Jerry Miculek shoots tens of thousands of rounds per year through his new production S&W revolvers don't you? The new guns are built to last and will last a lifetime with moderate care. Parts broke on the old guns just like they break on the new ones. I have old guns with good triggers and I have old ones with not so good triggers. The same goes for the new ones. I buddy of mine just bought an old Model 28 and I just bought a new 627. I honestly can't say that one trigger is any better than the other.

Of all my handguns including M-19, and several M-27' my 586 is one of my favorites. I know some don't care for the full barrel lug, but for me they are one of the best handling revolvers S&W has ever produced.

I have a 586 4" and a 686 2.5" and just gave a brother of mine a 586 6".

The L Frame 357s are workhorses and extremely accurate guns. Personally I like the CNC weapons as they are more uniform. I remember the days of Bangor-Punta and buying S&W was like Forrest Gump and his chocolates. I have two SMiths with the "lock": a 625JM and a 442. Neither one seems to be anything more than a cosmetic blemish.

If I were shooting "double-atomic" loads through either I would pull the locks but I am not.

Beyond discouraging new shooters, I find his statements to be just plain old incorrect. While bad ones slip through every now and then, S&W's current revolvers are fine guns. My new S&W's are jsut as nice as my old ones. My 25-13 is absolutely superb.

While its a person's prerogative to dislike modern S&W's and prefer to spend their money elsewhere, its unfair and incorrect to present these new guns as junk. Its just simply not so. S&W, lock, MIM and all still produces the finest DA revolver on the market.

JMO...

You do realize that Jerry is not shooting the same out-of-the-box stock revolvers that we are buying and shooting, don't you?
Jerry himself would tell you that a bone stock S&W could never hold up to the punishment he gives his guns. First off, the timing is way off for the speed with which he shoots. Second, he has to constantly retune & replace parts.

Believe me, Jerry's guns are a far cry from what they were when they first came out of the factory.

I recently found a beauty in pristine condition with the best grip fit I have ever seen for $500.

It just hit me that I'm sure it will also share the 686's ECM/EDM/whatever it's called non lead bullet friendly barrel. I will continue to hold out for a real 586 or maybe even a 581.

That may be true, but they are still S&W guns built by S&W employees using S&W parts of current manufacture. I am pretty sure they aren't using a 1973 trigger and a 1966 hammer, etc. And whether or not a bone stock one can hold up to a Miculek level of shooting or not, the point is that the statement that a current manufacture S&W gun will not last 5 years is completely false.

So they're back! I've always liked the blue guns. That $800 price makes me feel a lot better about the $500 I laid out for the lnib no dash I picked up last year.



Vern

i'am glad to see S&W is making the 586 agian . I love both of mine 4&6 inch . to me you cant beat blued , ss just does'nt do it for me . Pretty revolvers though .

My thoughts exactly. You should here the Shot Show bloggers and twitter going on about the new Ruger 22. You would have thought that they just invented the perfect gun.

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NO, but there is a picture of one of his guns at a match with the lock removed which does make you wonder about what S&W tells the public about the IL issue. If I can find the link again I will post it.

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I just paid $535 for my 586 (no dash) 4'' last weekend. Came in original box with papers and has zero signs of usage on it. Shes a beauty.

Typically competition guns are box stock, from a parts perspective. There isn't much that is replaced on a S&W revolver to make it a competition gun. It's given a trigger job, the cylinder is chamferred, maybe a hammer de-spurred, and maybe an IL is removed.

The only thing usually replaced might be grips - though many prefer the stock synthetic grips - and, maybe new front and/or rear sights. That's about it.

In fact, MIM is commonly preferred for these competition guns as they make for a very nice trigger job with less effort, even.

Jerry's race guns are not inherently different than what's on the gun store shelves. None of these are internal parts. None of these changes involve parts that have anything to do with reliability or long-term use.

I recently inherited a 586 6" from my dad, that I bought him
for his birthday in 1986. That is one beautiful gun. I'm a real
fan of a blued gun. For carry you got to have stainless. But for
a range gun, blued is by far nicer to my eye. And S&W did
one fine job of it. Very deep blueing.

I'm a huge fan of Rugers too, but they didn't seem to have quite
as deep a blue as the Smiths.

Off the top of my head, I think I paid about $330 for it back then.

It has, what I consider to be, an excellent trigger. But so does
my 2010 642. The 568 trigger might be a little lighter, but the
642 trigger is very close to being just as smooth, if not as
smooth. They are both excellent.

I like it!

We can gripe (well...not "we", but some of you) all we want about how things used to be....
but I am grateful that S&W continues to bring out "old" models again, lock or no lock.

I love the new 640 Pro, the 340 M&P (both without locks), and would love to add: 686+ 2.5"/625 of any variety/lemonsqueezer j-frame/629 Classic/and on and on.....

We should celebrate the fact that Smith is making quality revolvers in an age of plastic semi autos!

Now, if they would bring back the 19/66 model....

Now all they need to do is get rid of the lock and that ***** hammer.

sure do love those 586s

Ok found it read this if you like and follow the link to the other article. So does Jerry remove the lock ? We are not supposed to ?????

The S&W lock issue just won't go away. | Revolvers, Self defense | GrantCunningham.com

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Amen to that...I have one 66 2 1/2", used to have a 66 3" but like the rocket surgeon I am sold it, and I stand to inherit a pinned and recessed 19 4" someday. Love the 19/66.

Unfortunately, I am afraid we may have seen the last of the new .357 K-frames. I really don't understand why, since they still make the .357 J-frames. But when you look at the Classic line, the Model 19 and the Model 13 are mysteriously missing and they are about as "classic" as it gets. I think if they would reintroduce a 4" 19 square butt, a 2.5" 19 round butt, and a 3" 13 round butt, they would sell like the proverbial hotcakes.

it has the lock! dammit!

This is actually not the first 586 made with an internal lock. In 2006, S&W did a special run of 586s for Dicks Sporting Goods. They did 1,000 each in 4-inch and 6-inch. The model was 586-7 and, yes, they had 7-round cylinders.



I've had mine for 5 years and put a few thousand rounds through it. Even with the lock, it is an incredibly fun shooter.



More pics here:
S&W 586-7 - bushnell's Photos

I would be all over that 19 in 2.5" with the round butt.

I bought a 6'' 586 no dash for $350,its in great condition, just didnt come with the right grips

At the very least this is a step in the right direction for Smith & Wesson, and one that we all here appreciate. I'll admit that I don't like the lock or MIM parts, but with S&Ws great customer service and lifetime warranty I can live with both. My latest revolver from them is a Model 632 with both the lock and MIM parts. It has been a superb revolver in every way, and very confidence inspiring. Looking at the Shot Show video of the new 586, I'm impressed.

Hey SJshooter.... that's some gap you got there between the frame & the shroud.

Meh...

Overpriced knock off. I'll stick with the forged parts 586's. More gun for my money. YMMV. Regards 18DAI

While I agree that a Taurus is a knock off of a Smith & Wesson, I'm having a little bit of difficulty with this statement that a new S&W is a "knock off" of an old one. So is a new Ford Mustang a knock off of an old Ford Mustang just because the new one uses aluminum parts in the place of some of the steel parts on the old one and the new one has a security system that the old one lacked?

The new "Classic" Model 15 looks a lot like a 19 If S&W would just make these as Classic 19's they would sell a bundle of them! They even have a shrouded extractor rod!

I would say that's a great price for the gun you described, even after paying tax, if you did. I have a thing for those no dash 586's, in any barrel length. Enjoy. I know I would.

I'm pretty sure what you are seeing is just a reflection from the light box I shot this in.

Wow! I just checked out the picture of the "Classic" Model 15. It may be a fine gun, but what is classic about a Model 15 with a shrouded extractor?

Sorry,guys. These pieces of history,as S&W refers to them,are just not the same. I carried a custom tuned 586 with one S.O .I worked with and it was a sweet revo,with polished and rounded trigger.
I'd be hard pressed to buy one of these new ones without the hammer mounted pin.I'll never buy an S&W revo with a lock,either.
I'm actually on the lookout for another 586,but they are hard to find and high dollar when you do.That,tho,is the only way I'd ever be happy. I lived in the age of real S&W revolvers,and carried them for a living,and could never be satisfied with anything but the original.

Okay, fine, not the same -- but I have the above pictured 586-7 with the lock, and it is an awesome shooter. The blueing is really good, the timing is perfect, the lockup is old-school tight, it is a total tack driver, and you can shoot this thing all day and it begs for more. This is my only S&W with a lock, and I don't like the lock, and I have no idea where the key is, but this gun is just head-to-toe fun fun fun. So in that regard, it is just like every other L-frame ever made.

Gumpys . I take it you don't like new s&w.

Great post!

I have several 'lock model' S&W's, admittedly all but two purchased used. The blued ones I own have finishes as nice as any guns done since the switch in bluing methods. The medium and large frame guns ALL have extremely good triggers and are all well timed, lock-up tight and shoot very well.

We should be glad that S&W still makes the number of revolver models they do. The abject hatred of every single S&W manufactured since the dawn of MIM and the lock is just plain silly. With that attitude, we should all be driving 1970's gas hog cars that rusted out in three years, watching console TV's with vacuum tubes, wearing polyester leisure suits, drinking Schmidt's beer out of steel cans and listening to music on 8 track tapes!