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Old 03-11-2012, 01:36 PM
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Hello,

I recently purchased a 642 for my wife. I love this little guy, but the DAO trigger is a bit heavy for her.

I youtubed the "Trigger Job", and it seems to be a simple process. Now, Where do I purchase all the springs and equipment to do this? Do you all have assembly schematics for this revolver? Part numbers for the new springs?

On second Thought, should I send it to S&W to get it worked on?

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Old 03-11-2012, 02:16 PM
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Try Apex Tactical Specialties, Inc

They make a j-frame kit that you can install. I put one in my 438 last night. You can do a search on the forum, there was a thread about these kits a few months back.
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How much did it help? Was it worth it?
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I would strongly recommend getting the Jerry Miculek video Trigger Job". Worth every penny.

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I would strongly recommend getting the Jerry Miculek video Trigger Job". Worth every penny.

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+1 to this. A great investment.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:27 PM
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go to midwayusa.com and get the wilson combat 321 j frame kit. $8.89
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I was happy with the Wolff spring swap for my 642. My wife had the same problem. The Wolff Springs website has suggestions as to which spring to purchase for which level of trigger pull reduction you want. I can't measure the actual pull but I estimate it is about 1/3 less.

Remember to keep the old parts, in case you have to send your gun back to S&W, for any service or repair work. Some folks report that S&W put things back to original.
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Another vote for Apex.
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Brownells has the Apex carry kit which has every thing you need for a J frame
J-FRAME DUTY/CARRY KIT - Brownells
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On second Thought, should I send it to S&W to get it worked on?

Yes. If you're not familiar with how to work on a Centennial, send it to the factory and have them work on it. I'm assuming this gun is for self defense and not just a range gun. You want the gun to be as near 100% reliable as possible for that.

Edit to ad: Try dry firing the gun 1000 times before doing anything. Make sure the gun is properly oiled also.
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Thanks for the help everyone

I have planned on letting my wife shoot this for fun so we can have a bonding moment. I think she will be getting her dad’s Beretta 84FS Cheetah. Which means I will customize the 642 for myself!! Ha!

Though, I thought dry firing was bad juju ... I also have heard that its ok on the newer revolvers. Now that being said, I will work this guy in.

I appreciate all the help from everyone, I have ordered the Apex kit and cannot wait to get this in the mail.

If anyone has any pointers, or tips please feel free to post.
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When replacing the rebound spring, use a philips screwdriver that is just a touch smaller in diameter than the spring and it will go right in.
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I think you'll be pleased with the APEX kit.
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I've tried all 3 spring kits multiple times and I like the Wilson kit the best.
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Get her a set of snap caps.
Her trigger finger will get stronger.
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The Apex in my J-frame made for a better trigger pull and I have had no malfunctions.
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Default Ditto on the Snap Caps

I have ordered the Wolff spring sets for several revolvers and the 642 was one of the easiest to work on. There are some great videos on YouTube that I would watch before trying any mods yourself. Don't forget some nice grips if your wife is going to let you keep it! ;-)
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Guys,

I reveived the apex kit, All is good and put the plate back on and the cylinder doesnt want to spin ...

the devise that rotates the cylinder isn't working right. I have it in the grove of the plate .... No dice.

Any help
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When you put the hammer back in are you sure you got all the parts back in the correct position? It's easy to get the "tips" of the contact parts matched up incorrectly and it will not work.
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Anyone have photos of the 642 innards to help out codyb65? Maybe this would help, youtube video of a spring job? I followed this one and didn't have any problems at all:

S&W revolver trigger job 1 of 2 - YouTube

S&W revolver trigger job 2 of 2 - YouTube

There are other videos just go to youtube and search for 642 spring.

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Another vote for Jerry's "Trigger Job" video. It's really a fantastic reference.

Try light loads if you can when taking your sweetheart out for "fun" shooting.

The 642 will give stout feedback and if it's her first experience she may be turned off.

I always let my wife watch me shoot a new gun before she gets ahold of it. It lets her know what to expect as much as possible and has really helped her shooting.
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